Shelter has another ill-informed dig at landlords

Are Shelter ever asked to provide actual verifiable data to substantiate their wild claims - and if not, why not?

Most Landlords following the subject know full well that the S21 increase is as a result of rising costs (S24) and Renters Reform Bill - loss of S21

If Shelter and govt had left well alone this would not be an issue to the degree it is!

It will be interesting to see what they (Shelter) come up with after the ending of s21 and their 'suprise' that nearly as many S8 (various grounds) are being issued. In fact probably more as you only need a s21 to eventually guaranteed recovery of the property. Under S8 most will issue multiple grounds as despite the Gove PROMISE there is no hope that courts will support all correct and legally compliant notices.

Reply to the comment left by Jim K at 27/07/2023 - 10:21
agree. Inevitable rise of S8 as a direct consequence is inevitable so interesting to see what shelter say about this - especially as the reason will be listed!

If S8 rise by just 10% for rent arrears - what will be their argument now? I suppose they will head in the direction of rent freezes or caps next....

I’m wondering if the no fault evictions will become fault evictions with CCJ’s making the bad tenants actions follow them around and make them pariahs to future landlords. Or will the promised special parallel housing courts not have these powers?

Or will Ms Neate’s new complaint be that landlords are discriminating against tenants just because the have ASBOs or CCJs?

I may be being dense here. I understand Shelter is talking about the people evicted, but when they say that adds to homelessness, I wonder about their statistics. Surely an eviction leads to an empty property and someone else moves in, so the net effect on homelessness is nil.

Reply to the comment left by Darren Peters at 27/07/2023 - 10:51That is indeed what the Shelter representatve on the recently shown proceedings of a government committee alleged when Ben Beadle mentioned the possibility of this result of the legislation! It is evident that If evicted tenants are indeed faultless there is no reason they cannot simply move to another private rental, or at least there wasn't until the government began meddling in the rental market, spurred on by constant anti-landlord press releases from Shelter.

Polly is clueless. The irony is, homlessness has increased partly because the renters reform Bill, especially section 21 removal, has become the final straw of an increasingly overregulated industry. Exacerbated by high interest rates, it has pushed many good landlords to sell up, causing severe rental shortages, high rents and homelessness. Polly can't see the wood for the trees!

The Section 21 "no fault" eviction is really a 'no-reason-given' eviction and is actually a protection for tenants. If the landlord seeks repossession using Section 8 stating the real reasons for wanting repossession, usually arrears or damage, the local authority says that this is "intentional homelessness' and thus evades their duty of care. If the landlord uses Section 21 and gives no reason, the local authority has to accommodate the evictees. The Renters' Reform will strip away that last protection from tenants. Well done, Polly.

Alas, Shelter (and govt) consistently fail to recognise the simple difference between CAUSE and EFFECT. The CAUSE is failure to pay rent/ASB/landlord needing to sell due to govt meddling etc. The EFFECT is S21 or S8 and the landlord proceeding to evict the tenant.
Life is full of CAUSE and EFFECTS, Polly. You really are very thick or disengenous if you can't work out the difference.