Help please – criminal and bankrupt tenant won’t leave

Help please – criminal and bankrupt tenant won’t leave

11:02 AM, 25th March 2019, About 6 years ago 38

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I still have the tenant from hell. With the councils help I was misled to give a tenancy to this criminal tenant (who has done the same to many landlords before) with the understanding she will pay the rent with housing benefit. I stupidly agreed to let my property.

The tenant had some issues from very outset and she treated me with absolute contempt, refused to apply for her housing benefit and paid no rent what so ever, did not contact or gave me any explanation why rent was not paid.

I believe she used this tenancy to get herself a permanent council house and also had issues that I was not local, woman and a landlord!

I finally got the possession order last Tuesday and she texted me “I would have left by this weekend”! This was last weekend. She contacted the council who misled me to the tenancy by withholding information and indeed giving me false information about her and we all agreed that last Monday she would meet me at 9am, hand in keys and council arranged the inventory.

Sunday night I received a text from her telling me she can not move as she did not arrange a van. In the morning I contacted her asking about her plan for the day and reminded her that the inventory was waiting.

She told me she will do it later, but have not given time. She emailed the council and told them she will move after 15.30. I received an email from the council Monday evening telling me I should be relieved to finally get my keys.

I replied that still there was no keys. I was thinking she moved out, but did not hand in the keys. I texted her asking if she moved and told her that I was driving to the house as I was assuming she moved. I just wanted to check if she has. No reply. However I did not go.

On Tuesday as I had no reply, I drove to the property to check if she moved as she confirmed with council that she was on Monday.

I look through there were some furniture, I spoke to neighbours who told me she moved. I was convinced that she has so I told the neighbours to contact me if she turns up. I am worried that she will let others in my property to give me more trouble.

As soon as I got home, I received a text from the neighbours letting me know that she arrived. I called, but no answer so I texted her letting her know that I was sending my brother to pick up the keys.

She texted me back that I had to give her 24 hours notice that I can not just turn up and asking the keys would be an offence, claiming that I rushed her out even though court order expires on the 28th. I explained that the matter was that she did not paid me any rent what so ever and still going on about her rights.

She replied that her rent arrears does not mean anything as she is bankrupt.

I spoke to the local police, as I was worried she would take my white goods. The police advised me to go and wait outside on the day she originally was moving out as she offered. I mentioned to her that I received advice from the police referring to what he suggested, she replied that she does not give a toss about police as police can not do anything to her and I was threatening her.

I then send a text underlining that she enjoyed a rent and stress free 5 months in my property as I hardly ever contacted her and it was her who contacted me offering me that she was moving out. I said as far as I was let to believe that she moved out and it was my right to check on my property and seek my keys. This was 2 days ago.

I know the council gave her a house and the neighbour confirmed she moved out but still bullying me holding back my keys. Scaring me off even going and checking my property.

It seems she will not hand in the keys out of spite and hatred towards me and end of next week I will have to go back to the court apply for bailiffs which will be weeks and money lost as judge rejected the high court option and my plead trying to explain that it was a total episode of taking over my property taking advantage of laws protecting which normally should be seen criminal act but he was not prepared to listen and had a go at me.

Any thoughts please? Is there anyway getting my property back without going through bailiffs as she now occupies a tax payer funded property as well as my property free of charge.

Ela

 


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Mkahn

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23:44 PM, 30th March 2019, About 6 years ago

Thanks Chris Daniel, I am seriously chasing him up through the court. Other day that scum called and threatened to come after us if matter will take further but I am determined to teach him lesson and recover my rent and will expose him and his so called company to others to avoid any further damage to anyone else.

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19:57 PM, 31st March 2019, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Robert Mellors at 25/03/2019 - 11:53Robert
I'm in the process of obtaining writ Form N244 @ £100 as tenants still have not left after possession order expired. My plan was to use Sheriffs Office @ £395+vat once I obtain my writ. They advise 7-15 days.
Assuming using PCOL @ £121 and same delay of 4 weeks for bailiffs it seems much better to use court bailiffs?
I'll call court in the morning to confirm their timescales.
Am I missing anything?

Robert M

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21:55 PM, 31st March 2019, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by michaelwgroves at 31/03/2019 - 19:57The PCOL route where the cost of bailiffs is £121.00 is quite simple and does not require a transfer to the high court, as it would be the county court bailiffs who carry out the eviction. Whether this is the best course of action depends on a variety of factors, with the most obvious one being the length of time it may take. The High Court Enforcement Officers (high court bailiffs/sheriffs) make a big deal out of how fast they can carry out an eviction, compared to a county court bailiff, but really this depends on the likely waiting times for the county court bailiffs in your particular area. In the Sheffield area it is usually 3 - 5 weeks, so this has been acceptable to me, but different locations will have different likely wait times, so always check what it is for the area where you are wanting to carry out the eviction, and then weigh up the pros and cons accordingly.

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18:52 PM, 1st April 2019, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Mike at 25/03/2019 - 13:16
"I am sure you could report it as a theft, long as you have evidence that you owned it, and that he took it."

Good luck with that!

The police are not interested.

I had something very similar happen to me a few years ago.

I reported the washing machine theft to the local police who were sympathetic but they were over-ruled by their higher-ups who insisted that it was a civil matter.

I do not understand how walking out of a supermarket with something you haven't paid for will see you in court for theft but stealing a washing machine will not!

Ela

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19:39 PM, 1st April 2019, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Badger at 01/04/2019 - 18:52
Thank god she has left. Have not checked if she broken the white goods but left a blocked, blacken toilet and extensive damage every single corner. Not to mention she left lots of skip furniture dumping them for me to deal with. Nasty piece of so and so. Yes, after I argued that she was abusing me and even if my goods removed police agreed to take an action. This is Surrey police they normally deal with issues swiftly. But luckily I did not have to go down that route.

Ela

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19:39 PM, 1st April 2019, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Badger at 01/04/2019 - 18:52
Thank god she has left. Have not checked if she broken the white goods but left a blocked, blacken toilet and extensive damage every single corner. Not to mention she left lots of skip furniture dumping them for me to deal with. Nasty piece of so and so. Yes, after I argued that she was abusing me and even if my goods removed police agreed to take an action. This is Surrey police they normally deal with issues swiftly. But luckily I did not have to go down that route.

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19:44 PM, 1st April 2019, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Ela at 01/04/2019 - 19:39
Where in Surrey Ela? I hope I don't come across her!

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20:52 PM, 1st April 2019, About 6 years ago

Many thanks Badger. I am trying to knock every door for justice & am hopeful of any positive outcome. I have a new solicitor who has assured me to take this matter to its logical end. Have got an appointment with MP who could raised the issue in parliament. In my case the culprit is a rich person running six limited companies at a time and my property contact was with one of his limited company. He used this property as HMO( we have the proof) and earned a good amount of money from it. If this was case of an individual tenant I could not use my energy and resources to follow the case.

Ela

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20:57 PM, 1st April 2019, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Freda Blogs at 01/04/2019 - 19:44
Am I allowed to say it? I have been so busy have not had a chance to find out if it’s ok to discuss the local authorities name.

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22:38 PM, 1st April 2019, About 6 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Ela at 01/04/2019 - 20:57
She has done so much bad to you but you can't say it , what is wrong with this system?
wanda

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