Election dilemma: the devil you know or don’t?

Homelessness against a landlord's need to sell! Tenant wins everytime! It plays into the local authority's hands and reduces their current need for more social housing!

Hi Beaver,
I hope you’re well?

I do see your point and yes it is a worry. I’m not sure that the chances of that particular part of the proposal making it through both house in altered form are in any way assured.

Besides, as Reluctant Landlord points out, you have a genuine case for the welfare of your mental health. That coupled with onerous mortgage payments decimating your profit, I would suggest that your financial losses also outweigh those of your tenant.

Are we really that self centred that we are willing to trade better returns for the loss of the NHS ( Trust me all us older, voters/landlords are going be relying upon it more and more as time goes by ). If that doesn’t scare you then:

A)What is wrong with you?

& B) Even if some of us have private healthcare, how soon are you going see those premiums skyrocketing as we regress to the USA way : Pay up or die! Doctors will be able to set their prices at what ever they like! Most won’t of course, some will. Its supply and demand and the unsavoury vagaries of the human condition will always reveal itself.

Under the Tories we will see further erosions of our civil liberties, reduced investment in our schools, the state ones obviously, those in private schools will all be perfectly fine, just the other 90% who can’t afford it.

Under the Tories we will see the further decimation of social care continuing a long held policy of condemning the elderly and the disabled to a terrifying “future” without their basics needs attended to.

Loss of dignity, depression and an accelerated decline. Remember Johnson saying that “ The sick and the elderly need to just accept their fate” during the early days of the pandemic?

How much better off are you after say, Brexit? Not as well as all those hedge fund managers and the “elites” I’m guessing? They have made unimaginable wealth on the back of everyone else. They don’t give two ******( insert your own expletive here: ) about you, anybody you’ve ever known and certainly not about anyone you care about.

Under the Tories we will see more gas exploration licences being sold in the North Sea and an accelerated roll back on every green policy. The planet is dying! Do you think our children and grandchildren deserve to have a chance at a life too? Or are we just being like Trump/Johnson/Putin insert your own dictator, despot or other megalomaniac here: and are just in it for ourselves and screw everyone else over?

Just trying to see the bigger picture here,

No offence intended. Apologies if any is caused,

Best,

Steve
I said it earlier; This about more than us. If we are shortsighted and grab as much as we can as quickly as we can and not consider any of the above, then we are truly lost.

Reply to the comment left by Reluctant Landlord at 10/06/2024 - 10:23
Reform will never jump into bed with Labour.

That's misinformation.

We've been infiltrated by a Loonie Leftie.
No offence intended

It’s a difficult choice. The damage that has been done to the country over the past 20 years will never be repaired.

I’ve read as much as is available about what they all say that they will do. Of course, it’s likely that they will do something different.

We shouldn’t underestimate the hatred that the Conservatives have brought upon themselves. I was a (disillusioned) Conservative party member until Sunak was gifted the leadership, without a vote from the membership.

Throughout Thatcher’s reign, I’d vote for whoever would stop the Tories. Often, this would be LibDem as I lived in an area where Labour simply couldn’t win.

Many of the problems that our country faces are caused by mass migration. The problems will only be solved when this is brought to an end. We simply cannot continue to allow French warships to escort migrants to U.K. waters. It must end.

Not that ‘stopping the boats’ is the only measure. Many more people enter the U.K. by other means. Border control need ps to be supported by the Armed Forces. The country is full.

Only Reform UK have a commitment to bring net migration to zero. I’m sure this is neither achievable nor is it reasonable. However, migration needs to be controlled. The U.K. government should decide who comes to the U.K., not the people smugglers.

If we want a million of the poorest people from around the world to flood our country, to add to our NHS waiting times, to claim our overly generous benefits, to fill over already full prisons, to flood our towns and villages with drugs and, at the same time, to continue hating us, then we should say so.

So, unless I’m convinced otherwise, I’m voting Reform UK.

I am leaning towards Reform but I cannot vote for Farage as a principle!

Reply to the comment left by Steve Shepherd at 10/06/2024 - 12:23
You didn't cause me any offence so you don't need to apologise. From my point of view there's no difference between Boris Johnson going to a party when the rules said that most of us couldn't and Angela Rayner buying her council house under rules designed to facilitate home ownership with a massive gift from the taxpayer, effectively becoming a landlord with that tax-payer-funded-lottery-win, and then spending years attacking landlords. It's just two instances of hypocrisy. When I vote I do so on the basis of "..which of these hypocrites will do the least damage to me, my family and the economy."

Having a labour government bring in rules that tell me I can't get my home or my rental property back because it will do me or my family less damage than the family I'm renting to is just communism. I could never vote for that.

Reply to the comment left by JB at 10/06/2024 - 12:42
None taken 👍🏻

Not so much looney lefty as more of a previous Tory voter ( a looong time ago to be fair) who has seen them for what they are through my older and hopefully wiser eyes. I think I’m an offering an alternative view that’s all.

Peace and love !

The Loony Lefty;)

Picture this! A gentleman meets a lady and moves into her house when they marry and he sells his house and buys an investment property and lets it out. She dies before him and her children want the house sold. Due to Labour’s rules he can’t sell or move into his ‘own’ property and has no money for a hotel and ends up homeless. But one homeless LL compared to several homeless tenants keeps the homeless number’s down which makes the government look good and doing their job! Simple!

Reply to the comment left by T C at 10/06/2024 - 14:18
You can’t vote for Farage but you can vote for Starmer or Sunak.

If You Always Do What You've Always Done, You'll Always Get What You've Always Got.” ~ Henry Ford.

I’ll be voting for change. Real change.