13:32 PM, 28th November 2018, About 6 years ago 56
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Readers letter to MPs:
In my opinion some of you if not all, who are pushing for all new laws like scraping section 21, bringing in 3 year tenancy, all the fines, tenant to be given free solicitors to sue the landlords, etc, etc. You are inciting hatred/stiring up hatred against landlords.
Landlords were called “Bastards” by the Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth and he is supposed to set an example. Shame on him and the lot of you for doing all this, just so you can become popular, your name can be written in History books, you can win votes. This is all in self interest. Not in nations interest.
There are always two sides to the story
By bringing in unnecessary legislation to achieve your means of draining the last pence out of us to fill the holes where you have not budgeted properly, win your self votes and popularity, it is disgusting and abuse of power.
Why do you want to call me a bastard? You don’t know me. My parents were married before I was born
The 2nd meaning of a bastard is that I am an unpleasant or despicable person. Again you can not say that about me, you don’t know me.
For your information I have been doing this job for last 30 years. I also worked at three other jobs at the same time so I could fulfill my commitments to the lender every month at the time of Mrs Thatcher when the interest rates were in double figures. My husband and I also supported our two little children without ANY HELP/HANDOUTS from the government.
We had very bad experiences and had gone through hell but we continued without ANY HELP and Handouts from the government.
We thought we will work hard/slog/ go without holidays/social life/new gadgets/clothes/etc now whilst we are young so we can build security for ourselves when we are older/retired.
What have you guys done, pulled the rug under our feet by bringing in Section 24. Grossly unfair. We are overtaxed to pay for whom?
Lazy, dishonest, criminals, fraudsters of the tenants who not only don’t want to work, but want to produce kids and expect my family to pay for them. Hello who paid for my children?
If that is not enough the lying tenants fabricate stories and drag us in the courts, they get free solicitors and we have to re-mortgage our house or to sell a property to pay for the legal costs.
What about all those tenants that intentionally go out of their way to give landlords false referencing with the intention of not paying the rent and staying in the property for as long as possible or damage a property which is costing landlords many £1000s. Landlords facing financial ruin because of this.
Who fabricates the stories? The tenants. Who does not pay the rents? The tenants? Who damages the place? The tenants? Who does the judge believe? The tenants. Why?
Because people like you say nasty things about Landlords and bring in unnecessary legislation/s, media pick up on it and it’s “Wow” such and such has put this bill forward.
You are taxing us to death, we are the highest taxpayers. If that was not enough, for a trivial oversight you want to fine us £30,000 and make us criminal? You want the rent back for 12 months? It should be enough we protect the deposit but a trivial mistake in paperwork where it is not even detrimental to the tenant, the judge has to either award the money or/and stop LL getting the possession back.
For example one landlord gave Prescribed information, tenant agreed however because the LL’s signature was not witnessed it was thrown out even though there was no determent to the tenant. So now Landlord is stuck, can not get him out, tenant is not paying rent, living rent free. How fair is this?
Why are the Judges doing this? You are passing the legislation where the poor judge has no say in it and another reason because you have incited the hatred against the landlords. So even when the LL are telling the truth the judges are more likely to take the tenants sides because of all these horror stories Karen Buck says people in her area have experienced. Has Karen ever gone in depth to find out what the reality is? NO NO NO. Just because we LL don’t run to our MP’s when the tenant has stopped paying us rent, or/and damaged the property it does not mean it’s not happening. In fact LL have been abused more than tenants.
There are more bad tenants than LL. Most LL are good, we look after our tenants as well as our properties because it is in our interest to keep good tenants as long as possible and our properties in good repair for financial reasons. But it will not continue the same way. Why? Because of you people bring in more and more burdens and one day we’ll say “enough is enough”. Leave the sector all together like it happened previously when there was protected tenancy and regulated rent.
All I can say that the system is, for you people to win votes and everything for your self interest. There is no national interest or level playing field
Why don’t you apply the same rules for tenants? Then these questions would not arise.LL have tenants who stop paying rents, damage the property, antisocial behavior, assault LL, claim HB and other disabled benefits by pretending at the assessment, start crying, play acting in front of the medical team saying I was tortured in my country when I was young, I have flashbacks,etc etc.
And you know what? The tenant’s team of medical professionals write to the benefit people/DWP and blue badge department and the housing department saying
” Mr xx has significant struggle with both his mental and physical health. He meets criteria for post traumatic stress disorder to his reported traumas associated with his experiences of being detained and tortured in xxx over one year period as well traumatic events he experienced as a child. He also displays many trauma symptoms related to his x wife and baby. He also suffers major depressive disorder and is significantly socially isolated a result of his his symptoms.”
What is all this garbage? Did the medical professionals opened his brain to see if this was real? Did the Professional team make any checks in his country to see if he was ever detained ? The professional team write down (the play acting by the tenant) what they see for 20 mins and the story the patient/tenant give them. Professional team then gives him prescription, support of a social worker, support his application for disabled badge, housing, benefits and DWP benefits. What a joke.
The tenant of-course makes sure he doesn’t take the medicines and continues regularly to go to his professional team. A couple of days before the visit of his social worker or appointment with the medical team he does not shave or bathe and wears scruffy clothes so he can play the part in front of his professionals. They are cunning, 100 steps ahead, they have game plan. The medical professional team don’t see this because it is a short visit, 7 minutes for the GP , it is very easy to act for short periods. However the neighbors see them walking, jumping, leading a social normal life, LL get to know a lot about their tenants from the neighbors, LL also have cctv.
Then the tenant gets Environment involved saying the flat has damp, there is a drain smell, he can’t open windows, there are bars on the window, he lives in the basement, it’s dark, even in summer it’s cold. Then he says in a little mouse’s voice crying to to his professional team that all these things remind him of when he was detained in prison. Please can you support my application to be moved.(However when this same tenant speaks to the Landlords they speak like Lions.)
These tenants are the criminals.
Who pays for free medications that he throws away? Who pays for the social worker when not needed? Who pays for medical team when not needed? Who pays for his legal aid? Who pays for his FREE accommodation? Who pays for his council tax? Who pays his £300.00 per week benefit spending money?
Hard working tax paying LL and their families. Both my children leave home at 7.30 am and get back home between 7 and 8 pm. Is this fair?
Instead of appreciating a beautiful flat in central London, RENT FREE, COUNCIL TAX FREE, getting over £300 a week FREE spending money (Karen Buck this is for you) Tenants are still not satisfied, they want to bleed the LL of every penny including putting a charge on the property till LL pays the compensation awarded by the Judge.
How did the tenant managed to get such a large compensation from the judge? By being dis-honest, play acting that he is the victim here,not allowing access to the landlord to inspect or carry out repairs, by producing back dated letters made up at the last minute and of course not forgetting no win, no fee and/or legal aid solicitor putting even more ideas in tenant’s head. These are criminals not LL.
Tenant throws water on the walls a couple of days before EO is supposed to visit. Tenants don’t allow access for this reason they have a game plan. They deliberately block the toilet/bath to show the EO what a nasty LL he/she is. The tenant will say I have asked my landlord so many times but he/she doesn’t repair. They drain the water out of the boiler and show to EO that their heating has not been working for days. The tenants gets compensation awarded for leaving without heat and hot water. EO are not technical in boiler repairs. They have to write down what they see at the time of visit.
Tenant produces back dated letters which he has never posted. If LL ever goes to the property Tenant calls up the police screaming harassment and takes injunction against the LL coming any where near the property.
These are criminal tenants.
It is the tenants who have the upper hand, if they feel like it, they will pay the rent, if you ask for it whether in person,by phone,text or email, they claim the LL is harassing them and go to the likes of shelter who arranges no win,no fee or/and legal aid solicitors. Tenants have nothing to lose but for LL even to defend made up cases like these cost a lot of time and money.
This is retaliatory behavior from tenant side because LL asked for legally due rent. Why don’t you pass a bill to stop this? If tenant is in arrears they can not bring a defense claim against the LL?
It should be made a law once section 8 or 21 served the tenant can not raise new complaints about repairs just to stop/postpone the case.
It should be made law once section 8 served for rent arrears they can not top up little money to be less than 8 weeks. They can pay the money but it has to be in full to stop the case.
The tenant should not be allowed legal aid for eviction cases.
If you walk out of a shop without paying for an item, it’s a criminal offense, so what is the difference when they don’t pay the rent? This should be a criminal offence.
If they damage someone’s car or anything else, it’s a criminal damage, so why is it not a criminal damage when they smash up my rented place to them?
If LL are prohibited from renting due their offenses than it should be the same for tenants, not allowed to rent and there should be a register.
Surely all of you can use common sense, why would a LL evict a good tenant who pays the rent on time, looks after the place? It cost time money to LL to find another tenant (redecoration, new bed, inventory, advertising, etc,etc)
I am prepared to meet up with who ever and what I have said about tenant’s behavior are real cases known to me personally.
I could go on and on and on. But I have had enough.
Regards
Rishah
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Sign Up16:12 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Annie Landlord at 29/11/2018 - 09:22
"transparently racist" overtones.
Where are these?
Luke P
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Sign Up16:37 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Jay James at 29/11/2018 - 16:12
My thoughts exactly. I think it was all inferred and 'offended-on-behalf-of', merely because it mentioned 'back in my country'. No country or race identified and a lot of tedious links. I'd put money on those offended by something so trivial being part of the metropolitan South East.
Yvonne Francis
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Sign Up17:10 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mandy Thomson at 29/11/2018 - 13:09
Mandy have you forgotten the post from Dr. Rosalind Beck on 17th April 2018 on Rhik Sammadder’s opinion piece for The Guardian, not to mention all the legislation passed on PRS to not come to the conclusion that there is discrimination or bias against us. In a conversation my partner had with a fellow artist he asked her what did her husband do for a living. She replied he was a Doctor. She then returned the question and inquired as to what he does. He said a landlord at which she replied ‘like Rachman’. When he came home he told me he felt like saying to her ‘like Shipman’. This is certainly not the first time this has been said or implied to both of us.
Yes I would like to get rid of ‘rouges’ in our profession but it will not be done while inflationary language is used and the baby gets thrown out with the bathwater.
Chris @ Possession Friend
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Sign Up17:33 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Yvonne Francis at 29/11/2018 - 17:10Quite right Yvonne, bit its not the majority of ( good ) Landlords job to root out the bad, that's Govt, both central and Local's job and they're making a right 'pigs ear' of it. They 5hink its going to get them votes but by not showing Leadership and Management of L.A's - it will backfire on them cometh the day, then we'll really be in the proverbial sh*t. with Captain Buck at the helm.
Instead of looking at their own poor performance in this area, all they do is publish more regulation, after more regulation and make a 'noise' in the media about all the "measures" they are taking against the Rogues.
But they're NOT. These regulations only impact the good landlords to have to pay for licensing Electrical safety certs (next year) etc etc.
Just look at the RLA's post today about the shocking rate of enforcement by L.A's - only bit they're missing is which ones - just in case they're 'in bed' with that L.A's Licensing scheme !
Never mind, MHCLG will just sweep it under the carpet by promoting yet another piece of regulation with the same old, same old strap line of 'look what we're doing to combat Rogue landlords' - its really like a stuck record with them.
Mandy Thomson
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Sign Up17:44 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Yvonne Francis at 29/11/2018 - 17:10I actually did a counter polemic rebuttal piece that basically replaced the word "landlord" with the word "journalist" in answer to Mr Sammader's piece....
No. I did not say there was no prejudice or campaigning against us. What I said was Shelter are quite subtle in the way they go about it, and it does have to be remembered that they exist to support tenants, not landlords. I am hard pressed to find a directly inflammatory statement they've made against private landlords.
I'm not aware of any association Shelter have with the Guardian and other tenant lobby groups other than a shared cause and similar viewpoints. However, when the Guardian publishes its extremist anti landlord rubbish, it would be nice if Shelter would stand up for landlords on occasion and call this behaviour out.
Jay James
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Sign Up19:05 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Jay James at 29/11/2018 - 16:12
Hi Annie landlord
My question was a literal one.
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It was not an attempt to moan about someone mentioning the word 'Racist', (as seems to be the politically correct thing to do these days)
TheMaluka
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Sign Up21:14 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mandy Thomson at 29/11/2018 - 17:44
Mandy you give me the impression that you think Shelter can do no wrong. In fact Shelter have done immense damage to the PRS by supporting section 24 which as you know will lead to massive increases in rent - I'll be happy for you to tell me I am wrong in two years time - supporting the abolition of section 21 notices, the only mechanism I have to rid myself of drug dealers, supporting longer minimum tenancies which neither the tenants nor the landlords want - give us all the choice of tenancy length - supplying free lawyers to fight landlords like me on minor technicalities when evicting a troublesome tenant. I have said enough the last sentence was far too long for comfort but too short to explain all the problems with Shelter, the housing charity with no property to let.
Mandy Thomson
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Sign Up21:24 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by David Price at 29/11/2018 - 21:14
Shelter are doing immense damage to the PRS - the point I'm trying to make that no one is getting is you won't hear Shelter screaming, "wicked nasty landlords" - they are much more subtle than that. The Guardian isn't Shelter just as the Telegraph isn't the PRS.
WE NEED TO FIGHT SHELTER IN THE SAME WAY THEY ARE FIGHTING THE PRS.
Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118
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Sign Up21:29 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mandy Thomson at 29/11/2018 - 21:24
Or maybe gorilla warfare is the only viable option given the huge funding disparity?
What I think we are seeing here is a boiling over of emotion. Some are elequent with words and some are not so. Either way, the gloves are off and Shelter only have themselves to blame. They started with a few enemies, now they have hundreds and soon they will have 10’s of thousands turning against them.
TheMaluka
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Sign Up21:40 PM, 29th November 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mandy Thomson at 29/11/2018 - 21:24
Whilst I agree with you Mandy the subtle approach has been tried over the last few years and has not worked. Landlords collectively have only two years to save their industry for taxation will kill all but the wealthy with no mortgage.
How would you sort out the mess of demonising legislation which Shelter supports? Tell me and I will do my best to action your plan. Remember we only have two years.
How would you deal with the solicitor I encountered recently who insisted that my rent collection was a deposit? She managed to delay the eviction of a drug crazed tenant by two months because the judge insisted that she had a chance to prove her challenge (she failed).