Will Landlords be able to apply for heat pump grants in April 2022?

Will Landlords be able to apply for heat pump grants in April 2022?

11:23 AM, 20th October 2021, About 3 years ago 44

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A piecemeal approach risks undermining efforts to improve the energy efficiency of the private rented sector, the NRLA is warning.

The Heat and Buildings Strategy published today announced that grants of £5,000 will be made available to households to replace gas boilers with systems such as heat pumps.

Following discussions with the National Residential Landlords Association the Government has indicated that landlords will be able to apply for these grants from April next year.

However, despite the publication of the long-awaited strategy, the Government has again failed to provide the clarity needed by private landlords to plan for the future of their businesses – pledging to publish further information before the end of the year.

Ben Beadle, Chief Executive of the National Residential Landlords Association said:

“Eighty per cent of private rented households have gas central heating and replacing such systems will be both costly and vital to achieving net zero.

“Providing grants to assist householders and landlords to install heat pumps is a welcome step, but much more is needed to make the Government’s targets achievable.

“Once again private landlords have been left waiting for the Government to publish details of the standards they will be required to comply with, the deadlines they must meet, and how such work should be funded.”


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Chris Byways

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14:11 PM, 26th October 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Beaver at 26/10/2021 - 13:02
How it gets to the property is not our problem, it’s a society problem address by the power distributors. That’s why they use 275/400kv
https://www.nationalgrideso.com/document/144711/download
Shows who pays for losses.
“The Current G/D Split
45% of the losses are deducted from the metered volumes of generators, and the remaining 55% of the losses are added to the metered volumes of demand users.“
Where G/D is generation & demand.
In the US it’s 2-13% in India 30% due to thieving!

But inside the property any I2R losses produces heat so is not really lost.

PV is pretty useless coupled to Heat pumps. PV works well in summer, pathetic in winter, the COP of HPs goes down below 7deg, and probably needs supplementing when outside temp is below zero. So Heat Pumps with PV are great. - IN SUMMER.

Biomass ain’t that great either. Friend runs a soft fruit farm plant. 2 x 10Mw boilers, one NG the other wood pellet at local plant. He buys 30,000 tons of wood a year, has to ship much of it in from abroad, (shipping chipping drying energy use???) burns about 100 tons a day now. Has two other plants with these boilers. It, and the RHI he says just ain’t sustainable especially if we turned to mass wood pellet or wood chip heating. And all the other businesses being encouraged to do same!

No I don’t have an answer, but I see some of the difficulties and the politicians certainly don’t grasp the problem with Electric Vehicle AND Heat pump demand.

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15:42 PM, 26th October 2021, About 3 years ago

So if this is a discussion which is not just about whether it's worth it for us, but about formulation of policy, then it's worth remembering that we have a gas distribution network that's made of polypropylene pipes.

One of the issues with hydrogen is storage. H2 is such a small molecule that it will go through some substances. But it won't go through a polypropylene pipe. So that means that if you can't store it on the property you can send it back to the grid, and you don't lose power in transmission through the grid/network as you do with electricity. But as for storage, we already store oil in plastic tanks on some properties and that's not hazard free. So we need to be mindful of the fact that hydrogen may come along and that houses can not just harvest but also generate their own power.

So I've no intention of kicking my gas boiler into touch for £5-6K.

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20:14 PM, 27th October 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Beaver at 26/10/2021 - 15:42
Where do you get your hydrogen to harvest or export? Not seen it at Aldi.

Might now be more cost effective than this US link 4 years ago, but if it took 167kWh (of PV?) to make a litre of hydrogen equates to a gallon of petrol or perhaps 20kw of heating. So not good efficiency and the installation costs about £3/4M. Don’t think we will be exporting hydrogen anytime soon. Oh yes, and what will House insurers say? And then tenants won’t want the faff.

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/06/13/fill-hydrogen-car-home-bond-villain/T

Be good if hydrogen can be made to stack up, but we are some way off I think.

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8:32 AM, 28th October 2021, About 3 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Chris Byways at 27/10/2021 - 20:14
It's already being done in Scandinavia. And they are on the same latitude as we are.

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