West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

18:38 PM, 30th September 2013, About 11 years ago 3869

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West Bromwich Tracker Rate Mortgages Legal Action Group

West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

Are you affected by the West Brom Tracker Rate Hike?

If your mortgage account number begins with the number 8 you are highly likely to be one of the unlucky 41% of the mortgage customers of the West Bromwich building Society with a West Bromwich Mortgage Company account affected by the 1.9% increase in your tracker margin rate. However, if you arranged your mortgage directly with West Bromwich Building Society (i.e. not via a broker) or before 2006 the chances are that your account number will begin with the number 9 and you are not affected – YET!!! West Brom will give no assurances that mortgages with account numbers beginning with the number 9 will not be affected at some point in the future.

OUR INTENDED CLASS ACTION LITIGATION OVERVIEW

Tracker Rate Class Actions Updates

The reasons we started this campaign are very simple:-

1) We believe the actions of West Brom are immoral

2) We believe the actions of West Brom are unlawful, i.e. they have no legal grounds to increase their tracker rate margins

3) We have no wish to subsidise other areas of the West Bromwich Building Society business model

4) We are fearful of other lenders following suit if West Brom are allowed to get away with this

Mark Smith (Barrister-At-Law) said …

“Representative actions, where one person starts a case representing many others, who all want the answer to a legal question from a court such as ‘is this contract enforceable against me?’ but are not seeking damages. All those who sign up to the action will get the benefit of the win, but they do not have to start their own cases, as they are ‘represented’ by the lead claimant.

The only people who will definitely benefit from success in the case are those who have signed up. There will be no free rides. Any others will have to fight their own corners individually, either alone or with legal help (which will inevitably cost significantly more than the group case).”

We will NOT settle on any basis.

Landlords take legal action against West Brom Mortgage Company

We have a moral duty to do what is right for those who support the values upon which this campaign was started. Our promise to all who support these values is that we will not sell out on you at any price. We will continue to fight this injustice and we will fight any other lender who tries to follow suit.

Are you with us?

This discussion thread is now closed – we’re off to Court!

To link to the new discussion please CLICK HERE

West Bromwich Mortgage Company Tracker Margins Legal Action


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Alexander Law

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20:35 PM, 28th October 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "28/10/2013 - 15:36":

I'm with you 100% Mark. You've expressed the position far more eloquently than I could, but I agree with every word and sentiment in your post (and have done since the WB letters landed on my doormat 5 weeks ago).

Like I said at the start, this is a "no brainer". If we don't fight this all the way, we stand to lose tens of thousands of pounds, not just to WB, but to any other lender that thinks they can get away with highway robbery. This is our life savings we're talking about.

And I sincerely hope that anyone watching from the sidelines will sign up and join in the campaign, even if they prefer to do it privately with Mark and Justin. Just do it!

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21:00 PM, 28th October 2013, About 11 years ago

Those that are sitting on the sidelines is probably a temporary position as money raised to date is enough to get opinion. If they join now & it goes nowhere then they have lost part of there money if they wait until Counsels Opinion & its a go, then that would be the time for them to jump on board.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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21:11 PM, 28th October 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "ian " at "28/10/2013 - 21:00":

I know for sure that a lot of people are writing to WBBS, FOS etc. in the hope they will get a different response to everybody else. The reason I know this is that I receive around 10 phone calls and a similar number of emails every day from people who tell me what they are doing. When they get the inevitable standard responses that's the point most sign up. When they do that I encourage them to post here and that seems to encourage others. Let's see how many sign up in the next 4 weeks. The next big influx will come after we get the barristers opinion and the associated media. The next big influx after that will be when the payment increases kick in. The next one after that will be the media when litigation actually commences.
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21:21 PM, 28th October 2013, About 11 years ago

Just to make it more widely known: IF (and I say that with a tinge of irritation) WBBS carry in with this rise in the wake of us not being successful (but we will!) then we have no option but to sell one of the properties affected, as we just can't afford to lose what we're now saving to pay the mortgage off! So WBBS are actually PREVENTING us from paying the capital of this mortgage off! How ironic is that?

The only way they'll then get their money back is by repossessing, though in my view the value will be far short of the value when it was refinanced, so we'll be in negative equity in effect, and unable to pay off the capital BECAUSE of this hike now (so money-up-front so to speak). What then? (Well I know what happens currently, but WTSHTF economically?).....

Terry Harris

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21:37 PM, 28th October 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "28/10/2013 - 15:36":

Hi Mark
This is my first ever reply.

I just wanted to say I'm with you 100%

Pls keep up the good work. Thanks

Dan Smith

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22:37 PM, 28th October 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "28/10/2013 - 21:11":

That;s great news Mark - United we prevail divided we fail.

I've just read through the BoI thread for a couple of hours and it seems they generated approx 100 contributors from a possible 13000 over 8 months - almost 3 a week.

So far we have a similar number of 100 - assuming average of two mortgages per contributor - in a little over 5 weeks. That's 20 a week from a possible 6700 contributors - 7 times the BoI signing up rate.

Given the daily contacts of 10 converting at 50% we should have an additional 100 members and an additional £40k in the fighting fund in four weeks.

Let's all redouble our efforts to tell anyone we can think of about our plight and how they can get involved too.

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23:05 PM, 28th October 2013, About 11 years ago

As we had raised funds for contacting brokers would it be worth refunding to buy a landlord database I looked at one called 1st data for £400 contact details of 40,000 landlords throughout the uk, all contacts within the database have 3 or more properties
You receive
Contact Email address
Contact name (full)
landline & mobile.

David Lawrenson

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8:17 AM, 29th October 2013, About 11 years ago

Mark,

Obviously I'm not directly affected (yet, as none of my lenders have yet done such a move but my mortgages with two big lenders may afford them the same scope as WBBS) but I did like your statement and I do think it is right.

WBBS have to be defeated in court to stop other lenders who may be contemplating doing this.

There is a moral issue here - and what WBBS have done is not right.

I support your stand (even though it may make me unpopular among some of the more unethical lenders for taking such a position.)

David Lawrenson
http://www.LettingFocus.com
Private Rent Advice

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9:14 AM, 29th October 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "ian " at "28/10/2013 - 23:05":

Hi Ian

Purchasing data of this nature for email purposes is very high risk because the recipients have not opted to receive the emails from the sender and they are therefore spam. Many lists of this nature are sold as "opt in" but clearly they are not because nobody would opt to receive emails from anybody who buys the list. If too many people report these spam emails it can result in email servers being blacklisted. In our case would mean that none of our subscribers would receive our Newsletters and our members would stop receiving comment notifications and emails when new articles are published.

We would also be breaking the law by emailing a consumer database of this nature - see http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2003/2426/contents/made

What we need to do is to persuade companies holding these databases to send emails for us, preferably free. Landlords associations are a prime example.

I am also planning to talk to the Your Property Network magazine as they have a big email database. It would be good if we could all have a think about what other magazines we could contact.

If anybody here is a member of a property club or a property network perhaps they could ask the person who organises events to help.

We should also be contacting our mortgage brokers, IFA's, solicitors and accountants to ask them whether they have an email database of landlords and whether they would help by sending out our Press Release and adding a page on their websites - see >>> http://www.property118.com/press-release-tracker-rate-mortgages/
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9:16 AM, 29th October 2013, About 11 years ago

MARKETING FUND UPDATE

If we are to consider advertising I suggest it should be via Facebook. I have done some research and we are able to contact in the region of 230,000 to 420,000 people via Facebook for a budget of £800. These will be friends of friends of people who have "Liked" the Property118 Facebook page. On the basis that people socialise with like minded people this could be an excellent target audience.

Details via this link >>> https://www.property118.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Facebook-Promo.png

The beauty of this type of advertising is that we can add credit to reach more people as and when we receive donations. Therefore, I put this suggestion forward to the group.

If you support this promotion please leave a comment stating how much you wish to donate to the the fund and then make your donation via this link >>> http://www.property118.com/much-appreciated/
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