West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

18:38 PM, 30th September 2013, About 11 years ago 3869

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West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

Are you affected by the West Brom Tracker Rate Hike?

If your mortgage account number begins with the number 8 you are highly likely to be one of the unlucky 41% of the mortgage customers of the West Bromwich building Society with a West Bromwich Mortgage Company account affected by the 1.9% increase in your tracker margin rate. However, if you arranged your mortgage directly with West Bromwich Building Society (i.e. not via a broker) or before 2006 the chances are that your account number will begin with the number 9 and you are not affected – YET!!! West Brom will give no assurances that mortgages with account numbers beginning with the number 9 will not be affected at some point in the future.

OUR INTENDED CLASS ACTION LITIGATION OVERVIEW

Tracker Rate Class Actions Updates

The reasons we started this campaign are very simple:-

1) We believe the actions of West Brom are immoral

2) We believe the actions of West Brom are unlawful, i.e. they have no legal grounds to increase their tracker rate margins

3) We have no wish to subsidise other areas of the West Bromwich Building Society business model

4) We are fearful of other lenders following suit if West Brom are allowed to get away with this

Mark Smith (Barrister-At-Law) said …

“Representative actions, where one person starts a case representing many others, who all want the answer to a legal question from a court such as ‘is this contract enforceable against me?’ but are not seeking damages. All those who sign up to the action will get the benefit of the win, but they do not have to start their own cases, as they are ‘represented’ by the lead claimant.

The only people who will definitely benefit from success in the case are those who have signed up. There will be no free rides. Any others will have to fight their own corners individually, either alone or with legal help (which will inevitably cost significantly more than the group case).”

We will NOT settle on any basis.

Landlords take legal action against West Brom Mortgage Company

We have a moral duty to do what is right for those who support the values upon which this campaign was started. Our promise to all who support these values is that we will not sell out on you at any price. We will continue to fight this injustice and we will fight any other lender who tries to follow suit.

Are you with us?

This discussion thread is now closed – we’re off to Court!

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West Bromwich Mortgage Company Tracker Margins Legal Action


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Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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19:44 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Richard Kent " at "08/12/2013 - 18:59":

I recommend reading Mary's book. It's not the usual guru stuff you will read elsewhere. It's deep and controversial, much like this thread. Mary has been a supporter of Property118 since the very early days, hence allowing her to promote her book in email footers.
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19:54 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Devon Landlord" at "08/12/2013 - 19:36":

Something happened about two weeks ago which I am unable to share the details of at this stage, save to say that as of then money and ATE insurance is no longer an issue for us to concern ourselves with. I did report this on the forum in more detail at the time.

We now have two barristers opinions and we are just waiting to hear back from our QC in respect of some final details. We will be serving papers in January and all "fence-sitters" have been advised to instruct Justin now as they will be locked out 7 days before the papers are served to the Courts. After the representative action has been heard it will cost £1,500 per case.

I cannot disclose whose case we will all be represented by, save to say that it will not be mine. Until now I have given the impression that it will be my own case which takes the lead position. This has been to waste the West Brom's time as they will no doubt have been doing a lot of preparation to attempt to discredit my case 😉

If you haven't already, please read this update >>> http://www.property118.com/important-message-to-mortgage-advisers-re-west-brom-mortgage-company/61182/
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20:00 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "08/12/2013 - 19:54":

To be clear Mark, those landlords who are affected by this MUST be named as part of the Class Action in order to benefit otherwise, once you win and I KNOW that you will, they will have to fund their own action in order to recoup their own losses?

Please confirm and I will ensure that I pass that message on loudly and clearly - I imagine that there are some people who think that once you win your case they will benefit too.

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20:15 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mary Latham" at "08/12/2013 - 20:00":

Hi Mary

Thank you for your question, I quote the words of Mark Smith (Barrister-At-Law) …

“Representative actions, where one person starts a case representing many others, who all want the answer to a legal question from a court such as ‘is this contract enforceable against me?’ but are not seeking damages. All those who sign up to the action will get the benefit of the win, but they do not have to start their own cases, as they are ‘represented’ by the lead claimant. The only people who will definitely benefit from success in the case are those who have signed up. Any others will have to fight their own corners individually, either alone or with legal help (which will inevitably be significantly more than the join-up fee for the group case).”
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20:18 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "08/12/2013 - 20:15":

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20:34 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "08/12/2013 - 19:54":

Dear WBBS Directors, I see that my local fast food outlet is recruiting. You'll have to re-train though. Good luck!

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20:44 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mary Latham" at "08/12/2013 - 18:50":

Mary,
Perhaps you might agree with me on this one... that the National Landlords Assoc. could be doing a little more.
They may not share 118's view of likely success but I do think they could extend themselves a little more on this matter.

So, maybe if you have not already done so, you could suggest as much to the NLA board.

After all, this would seem to be a pretty big threat to the pockets of many landlords.

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20:47 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Smith (Barrister-At-Law)" at "08/12/2013 - 15:57":

I understand from a good source that I have that another building society a few years ago did speak to the FCA. If you would like to email me via my website I can give you more info.
I do not know if WBBS have done so.
The article in The Times a few weeks ago mentioned that other lenders had approached the FCA - you would need to speak the journalist who wrote that piece.
Sorry cannot help further.

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20:55 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "David Lawrenson" at "08/12/2013 - 20:44":

Hi David

As Mary is a contractor to the NLA she cannot comment on matters such as this. Mary posts here as a private landlords and not an NLA rep. I am sure you will understand the politics at play here. As Mary has said though, as a private landlord she has been an active supporter of this campaign outside of her NLA duties.
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20:56 PM, 8th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "David Lawrenson" at "08/12/2013 - 20:47":

To back up your point.......

From what I understand the FCA have been giving a silent yes to this practice so far and delaying their response till next year.....

Example publication...........

https://www.ftadviser.com/2013/11/20/regulation/regulators/fca-set-to-step-in-over-unfair-mortgage-rate-hikes-AkmEvrSxD7zPN1D8s1mz3J/article.html

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