West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

18:38 PM, 30th September 2013, About 11 years ago 3869

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West Bromwich Tracker Rate Mortgages Legal Action Group

West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

Are you affected by the West Brom Tracker Rate Hike?

If your mortgage account number begins with the number 8 you are highly likely to be one of the unlucky 41% of the mortgage customers of the West Bromwich building Society with a West Bromwich Mortgage Company account affected by the 1.9% increase in your tracker margin rate. However, if you arranged your mortgage directly with West Bromwich Building Society (i.e. not via a broker) or before 2006 the chances are that your account number will begin with the number 9 and you are not affected – YET!!! West Brom will give no assurances that mortgages with account numbers beginning with the number 9 will not be affected at some point in the future.

OUR INTENDED CLASS ACTION LITIGATION OVERVIEW

Tracker Rate Class Actions Updates

The reasons we started this campaign are very simple:-

1) We believe the actions of West Brom are immoral

2) We believe the actions of West Brom are unlawful, i.e. they have no legal grounds to increase their tracker rate margins

3) We have no wish to subsidise other areas of the West Bromwich Building Society business model

4) We are fearful of other lenders following suit if West Brom are allowed to get away with this

Mark Smith (Barrister-At-Law) said …

“Representative actions, where one person starts a case representing many others, who all want the answer to a legal question from a court such as ‘is this contract enforceable against me?’ but are not seeking damages. All those who sign up to the action will get the benefit of the win, but they do not have to start their own cases, as they are ‘represented’ by the lead claimant.

The only people who will definitely benefit from success in the case are those who have signed up. There will be no free rides. Any others will have to fight their own corners individually, either alone or with legal help (which will inevitably cost significantly more than the group case).”

We will NOT settle on any basis.

Landlords take legal action against West Brom Mortgage Company

We have a moral duty to do what is right for those who support the values upon which this campaign was started. Our promise to all who support these values is that we will not sell out on you at any price. We will continue to fight this injustice and we will fight any other lender who tries to follow suit.

Are you with us?

This discussion thread is now closed – we’re off to Court!

To link to the new discussion please CLICK HERE

West Bromwich Mortgage Company Tracker Margins Legal Action


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Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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18:58 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Shining Wit" at "05/12/2013 - 18:21":

A truly inspiring and very gracious post, thank you 🙂

Justin has some VERY good news to share with borrowers who only had one or two properties at the time of taking their West Brom mortgage. I believe he will be writing to anybody this applies to who is a paid up member of the campaign next week.
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19:21 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "05/12/2013 - 18:58":

Hi mark, not sure how I and others would be categorised? I bought my first buy-let property with west brom in 2007, then a 2nd and finally a third all with WBBS. I'm wondering what the good news is and if someone like me would qualify? Never had a rental property prior to first WBBS mortgage .

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19:36 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

You will probably get the rate hike on the first mortgage and possibly the second reversed well before the Court case

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20:43 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "05/12/2013 - 19:36":

Do they still need to be in the Class Action in this case ?

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20:51 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "05/12/2013 - 19:36":

@Mark A

Interesting.........

Mark, is this recent progress based on West Bromwich's of 3 buy to let property definition?

Is it that some decisions based on less than 3 could be reversed?

Or can you not say too much at the moment?

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21:04 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

http://insight.wesleyan.co.uk/climbing-the-property-ladder-wft/?%3Fce=denise.doms@gmail.com&cfn={~Forname~}&cln=Doms

halfway down the article is investment advice from the Wesleyan which gives their definition and explanations of different mortgage types - no mention of being able to hike the rate on a tracker mortgage on a whim!

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21:20 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Hallo everyone. It's two weeks since I contributed here but I have been working behind the scenes. For all those new contributors I am not directly involved in this campaign as I am not a wbbs borrower but I have been helping Mark since the beginning of the campaign and I have contributed money to help.

“Dean, the press list was amazing. I have been working on a list for the London and national dailies and Sunday papers and magazines like Estates Gazette, and I will deal with these. I was able to let Mark know today that a personal contact has today provided me with database of all property, financial and banking journalists working on these papers and I will deal with the issuing of press releases to these guys. I have telephone nos. as well in case I need to follow up on things. This database was shared with me on a personal basis so I cannot share it but this area of the press is in hand.

We do need quite a few people who are prepared to cover the local papers and media and if people could identify to Mark which area of local papers/media/trade associations/property weeklies they are covering by the beginning of next week he will be able to know that Property 118 has covered as much of the country as possible. One gentleman has indicated that he will deal with Scotland and I think we need three other people to cover the areas South of London and the coast, London to Manchester and Manchester to Scotland.

It does not matter if we do not reach everyone. We will reach enough people to increase awareness and hopefully the press will pick the story up and take it forward. Please do not expect too much from the Nationals and Sundays. Banks and building societies are major advertisers and this may affect the coverage we get but I will keep going with them.

Once Mark has the list of who is sending what out then he will let them have the relevant press releases by e mail and ask them to get them distributed by email immediately.

If you do take on some of the press work this is not going to be onerous. Obviously you will need to make yourself a database and I think that Dean's list form wikipedia will be very helpful.

The email that you should send to each journalist with the Press Statement should say :

"Reference West Bromwich Building Society".

Please find attached a press release from Mark Alexander, founder of the Property 118 internet forum which is spearheading a campaign to reverse the decision of West Bromwich Building Society in respect raising interest rates on tracker rate mortgages which were intended to track the bank base rate. The Building Society appear to believe they can treat these mortgages as Standard Variable Rate mortgages and a representative action is being prepared for a case to be heard in Court early next year to prove otherwise.

Several members of the press have already expressed an interest in the campaign and have written about it and I am sure your readers will be interested to see the progress as outlined in the Press Release attached.

If you do report on the issue may I please ask you to let me know so that we can include any article in our press file.

This email is sent on behalf of Mark Alexander and Property 118. All press enquiries and requests for interviews should be sent to Mark Alexander at mark@property118.com – tel 07834 754223"

Thank you for your assistance

Yours sincerely

When you find out that they have written something please refer to it here end a short thank you note and confirm that you will keep them up to date on progress.

If everyone lets me know if something is in the Press I will keep a cuttings book as a momento for Mark!!!

All BankersAreBarstewards Smith

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21:32 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

may i make a suggestion:- the paragraph

"a campaign to reverse the decision of West Bromwich Building Society in respect raising interest rates on tracker rate mortgages which were intended to track the bank base rate. The Building Society appear to believe they can treat these mortgages as Standard Variable Rate mortgages and a representative action is being prepared for a case to be heard in Court early next year to prove otherwise"

is understood by all of us - but would it necessarily be understand by a local provincial newspaper non-financial journo reading many press releases ?

For me, figures usually put into context the crux of an argument, and if you were to tell me that my building society had decided to increase my monthly payments by 1.9% when i had accepted their mortgage on the clear understanding that my interest rate would never go up unless Bank of England Base Rate increased.... and BOE base rate has not been increased......... then i would "get" the iniquity of WB's action much more easily. If an example of the amount of loan, and the previous monthly repayment, and the new monthly repayment were to follow.... that might make it almost impossible for anyone to NOT understand.

just a thought

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21:33 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "05/12/2013 - 17:42":

If they want to save the reputation of the WB Building Society, the people who instigated this debacle need to do a U-turn, and quickly.

Every day that passes, scores or hundreds of new people learn that the management of the WB cannot be trusted.

Every day the brand gets more tarnished. Like Ratners, only slower.

However, when the above press campaign gets underway, the new people will be numbered in their thousands.

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21:35 PM, 5th December 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Appalled Landlord" at "05/12/2013 - 21:33":

but from WB's savers point of view... what WB management is doing is admirable....... and yo can bet that WB have couched it in those terms to its members.... is anyone here a saver who has had any literature from WB re rates ?

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