West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

18:38 PM, 30th September 2013, About 11 years ago 3869

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West Bromwich Tracker Rate Mortgages Legal Action Group

West Bromwich Building Society Tracker Margins Legal Action

Are you affected by the West Brom Tracker Rate Hike?

If your mortgage account number begins with the number 8 you are highly likely to be one of the unlucky 41% of the mortgage customers of the West Bromwich building Society with a West Bromwich Mortgage Company account affected by the 1.9% increase in your tracker margin rate. However, if you arranged your mortgage directly with West Bromwich Building Society (i.e. not via a broker) or before 2006 the chances are that your account number will begin with the number 9 and you are not affected – YET!!! West Brom will give no assurances that mortgages with account numbers beginning with the number 9 will not be affected at some point in the future.

OUR INTENDED CLASS ACTION LITIGATION OVERVIEW

Tracker Rate Class Actions Updates

The reasons we started this campaign are very simple:-

1) We believe the actions of West Brom are immoral

2) We believe the actions of West Brom are unlawful, i.e. they have no legal grounds to increase their tracker rate margins

3) We have no wish to subsidise other areas of the West Bromwich Building Society business model

4) We are fearful of other lenders following suit if West Brom are allowed to get away with this

Mark Smith (Barrister-At-Law) said …

“Representative actions, where one person starts a case representing many others, who all want the answer to a legal question from a court such as ‘is this contract enforceable against me?’ but are not seeking damages. All those who sign up to the action will get the benefit of the win, but they do not have to start their own cases, as they are ‘represented’ by the lead claimant.

The only people who will definitely benefit from success in the case are those who have signed up. There will be no free rides. Any others will have to fight their own corners individually, either alone or with legal help (which will inevitably cost significantly more than the group case).”

We will NOT settle on any basis.

Landlords take legal action against West Brom Mortgage Company

We have a moral duty to do what is right for those who support the values upon which this campaign was started. Our promise to all who support these values is that we will not sell out on you at any price. We will continue to fight this injustice and we will fight any other lender who tries to follow suit.

Are you with us?

This discussion thread is now closed – we’re off to Court!

To link to the new discussion please CLICK HERE

West Bromwich Mortgage Company Tracker Margins Legal Action


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17:21 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Incensed Landlord" at "18/11/2013 - 16:49":

If the 'UK' regulators are not wanting to/too scared or just damn right too lazy to get involved in what seems to be the 'Hot Potato' of UK Buy to Let Mortgages and more specifically what is likely to turn into the next miss selling scandal, ala Tracker Mortgages, do we think we may garner any friends/or foes in the UK side liaising with Europe on the EU directive to regulate UK BTL's ?

The UK lenders are UK consider clearly on face value do not want to be regulated by The EU, but would our misspelling scandal be something they do not want raising to the EU to give them more leverage to regulate the UK BTL industry ?

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mortgageshome/article-2424376/Pending-EU-mortgage-directive-stop-buy-let.html

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17:23 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

CAVEAT EMPTOR
noun

[Latin, Let the buyer beware.]

************Absolutely!!**** however I was under the impression that The West Brom was a large Building Society and as a society and not a bank was more ETHICAL!!!!
I am in business so profit is not a dirty word to me but working in an ethical way IS important to me as is conducting yourself in a way that doesn't damage the businesse's brand.

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17:31 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

It looks as though none of the regulators are likely to be of much help but the benefit of all the advertising is that it is evidence of what WBBS believed to be the true meaning of the contracts at the time they were sold. On that basis it may be better to insist that the advertising was not misleading.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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17:35 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

LEGAL UPDATE

I put a post of the LinkedIn Solicitors and Barristers group last week with the title ....

"Help required to sue a solicitor for professional negligence - CFA basis"

CFA = Conditional Fee Agreement, better known amongst us mere mortals as 'no win no fee'

The post went on to explain our predicament and to ask questions regarding the potential, for those of us who sought professional advice from a solicitor or financial adviser, to make a negligence claim against them for not alerting us to the conditions now being relied upon by West Brom.

I have received a very encouraging response from a London barrister of 26 years experience, he knows of our campaign as his business partner is a landlord and follows Property118 closely. He is keen to work with us on the basis proposed, i.e. 'no win no fee'.

I have referred this barrister to Justin.

Watch this space, this is a very welcome end to what has otherwise been a very frustrating day!
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17:45 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Excellent news Mark and well done, a great start to the week.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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17:52 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Garner" at "18/11/2013 - 17:45":

..... and thank you for your amazing donation this afternoon Mark 🙂
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17:56 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "stuart marshall" at "18/11/2013 - 17:21":

Firstly, you may have a point. However, I don't really think the EU could save us - though it'd be nice to think so - as although SOME rulings might benefit UK citizens, many don't, and it's costing us a huge amount of money to be a part of.
So without getting too close to the EU debate, as I have strong feelings about the whole thing anyway, I'm not sure that we could go to the EU asking for yet more, on something we didn't want meddled with in the first place, according to the article link you posted. It's really unclear as to whether or not the EU could help, let alone make sense of the bureaucratic monster's intentions and anything it draws up in the legislature.
That said, if we DON'T succeed in our legal efforts here in the UK, then the EU at least provides another level to which we can go if we're in any way unhappy with the outcome here; and it'd have to be, in my view, on something to do with miss-selling or misrepresenting a financial product, as opposed to a buy-to-let matter per se - as anything BTL seems to cause disinterest, so keep it to simple mis-selling or misrepresenting, which would appeal to a wider involvement.
Thanks for the link though. I wasn't aware that this had even happened; so quiet did they keep it (I don't belong to any landlord organisations any longer, so publications focussed on this won't get to me of course).

Dean

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17:58 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "18/11/2013 - 17:35":

Mark. Will this just be to sue solicitors and FAs . What about FAs who only provided a non advisory service. Which I think most did. What about enact. West broms solicitors Can we sue them.?

Or are we looking to employ these on a no win no fee to go after west brom ? Can we do that offering £x per mortgage per person ?

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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18:10 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Dean Turner" at "18/11/2013 - 17:58":

This will only be to sue professional advisers who actually gave advice. It will not apply to members who used Enact and chose not to seek advice from their own solicitor, neither will it apply to landlords whose broker provided a non-advised service. It is merely another string to the bow, running independently to the legal case against West Brom.

This barrister may also wish to become part of the legal action team advising on the case against West Brom. Whether that happens is for Justin and the barrister to decide, however, I doubt we will get the barrister to take the case against West Brom on a 'no win no fee basis', it's just too big. We are still going to need to raise £100k plus for that I suspect. I like your wishful thinking though 😉

Another superb angle I've just thought of is that a 'no win no fee' deal to sue professional advisers will bring in more people because they will not be able to access this arrangement without signing up to the Class Action and instructing Justin as well 🙂
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18:14 PM, 18th November 2013, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Incensed Landlord" at "18/11/2013 - 17:56":

I agree, let's keep the EU on the back burner. They have no understanding of the UK BTL market and could easily do us more harm than good. See >>> http://www.property118.com/buy-to-let-regulation-the-eu-and-carrp/27472/

Thankfully they backed off from regulating the UK BTL market. If they hadn't all BTL mortgages would have been based on multiples of earned income, not rental income!

Let's not go there.
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