Unprotected deposit court proceedings?

Unprotected deposit court proceedings?

0:01 AM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago 26

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Hi all, apologies if this is not the way to do things. I’ve signed up specifically to this forum to see if anybody would be kind enough to offer some advice if possible?

I’m messaging as I feel I’m essentially being extorted by a tenant whom I believed to have had a brilliant relationship with only to be threatened with court action.

Long story short – I’ve had the tenant for 13 years in the property and never had a single issue in that time but decided to sell up this year. We gave the tenant significantly more notice that we planned to end the agreement due to the relationship and wanting to ensure she had plenty of time to sort herself out (and have even supported one of her family members with time and effort in getting a property separately following some personal trouble).

The problem as you can gather is that I hadn’t protected the deposit – I totally accept the mistake and take full ownership/accountability for this – it was purely a little bit of naivety and belief that given the long standing relationship that it wasn’t a huge deal (live and learn!), and despite there being significant damage to the property, far exceeding the amount held, I have offered her the full deposit back as I accept that I technically broke the law. There was never anytime where the deposit was withheld.

The tenant however has gone through a solicitor and has asked for x3 times the amount of her deposit and legal fees on top, citing ‘material loss’.

We are essentially questioning whether to go to court and push back on the basis that she’s taken advantage of this situation and hasn’t suffered any material loss to justify the requested amount – it’s a huge shock and represents moral bankruptcy in our eyes, but here we are!

There’s never been a crossed word or anything untoward in the days before the exchange… all very friendly, nor have any issues ever been raised on the condition of the property but as the handover day approached, she went radio silent for days and didn’t hand the keys back until days after the exchange was agreed.

Finally after multiple messages politely asking for the keys, she came back to say she was going through solicitors for money.

In anybody’s experience, under the circumstances do you foresee a judge demanding the full x3 amount paid, in which case it isn’t worth pushing and are better off just paying the amount?

It’s principally disgusting to us to pay all this money when we’ll essentially be paying somebody we’ve done a lot for to leave the place in a state. We’ve gone back to the solicitor to try and mediate and avoid court but it’s been met with increased fees and no interest in doing anything other than exploiting. It would be great to learn how judges deal with the circumstances in these cases and how it does or doesn’t play a part in the outcome?

Apologies for the mouthful but exceptionally grateful for any advice!

Best regards,

Will


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Kate Mellor

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12:00 PM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago

Am I wrong in thinking that the tenant only has six years from the failure to register the deposit to make a claim? This is the normal time frame before being considered to be 'time-barred'

Mike

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13:11 PM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago

That's why I never bother taking any deposit, its too much hassle and the deposit can never cover cost of damage tenants leave behind, So sod it, I refuse to take deposit and mention this very clearly in my tenancy agreement and make tenants sign a seperate declaration that no deposit has been taken.

You could however, speak to the tenants and ask why the heck did they not ask you first for 3 times the amount of deposit;instead of going to a solicitor, so offer them 3 times the deposit as long as they keep the solicitor out of it and as a full and final settlement.

Usually its the friendly tenants who do things like these, as they figure out your weaknesses and take full advantage to stab you in the back when you least expect it.

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13:24 PM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago

Reply to the comment left by Mike at 24/10/2024 - 13:11
Add I that explain to the tenant the solicitor will take a big chunk of their money so 3x from you is a good option.

Isn't it great we have to haggle with tenants to see how much money they will take for free - Entitlement !

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13:47 PM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago

Reply to the comment left by Mike at 24/10/2024 - 13:11
Deposits rarely scratch the surface of a landlord’s losses. I stopped taking deposits in 2011.

Fraser Hopewell

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14:26 PM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago

Reply to the comment left by Will at 24/10/2024 - 11:11
FYI the solicitors that are sueing me are Willians may be the same as yours? they have over the months gone from wanting 3 x deposit compensation to 1 x deposit compensation although their "costs" have gone from £4k to £7K in hindsight I wouldn't have communicated to them as every time they send a response or offer they charge for it they make more money but the Tennant gets less, also bear in mind the Tennant will prob have an additional win fee so they won't get all the compensation

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14:57 PM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago

Bits being left out here. Have you ever received a letter before action or was it straight to an aggressive pay 3x and our fees or else? There is such a thing as an abuse of process and the court will take a dim view on that kind of behaviour especially if you are responding with positivity in regards to returning 3x the deposit.

Paddy O'Dawes

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15:00 PM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago

Reply to the comment left by Kate Mellor at 24/10/2024 - 12:00
Kinda. You could argue discovery on finding out that on leaving etc the deposit wasn't protected at which point the clock starts

Judith Wordsworth

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16:27 PM, 24th October 2024, About 4 days ago

The deposit protection requirement cam in in 2017. As your tenant only took up residence 13 years ago you should have known about it, sorry.

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8:33 AM, 25th October 2024, About 3 days ago

Look into the Limitations Act and get your solicitor to reply back telling them were to go!!

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8:46 AM, 25th October 2024, About 3 days ago

Reply to the comment left by Kate Mellor at 24/10/2024 - 12:00I'm pretty sure you're correct...it falls under the limitations act

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