The Great Landlord Debate: Flee, Flourish or Pivot? Three Landlords, Three Very Different Stories

The Great Landlord Debate: Flee, Flourish or Pivot? Three Landlords, Three Very Different Stories

9:33 AM, 11th September 2024, About 2 months ago 8

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Being a landlord in the UK these days feels like standing at a crossroads. On one side, you’ve got landlords who are throwing their hands in the air, fed up with taxes, regulations, and tenants who think “boiler repair” means “replace entire plumbing system.” On the other side, you’ve got landlords who are rubbing their hands together, expanding their portfolios and grinning like they’ve just landed on Mayfair in Monopoly.

So, what’s the real story? Should landlords pack it in or double down?

To help answer that, we’ve got two landlords here to tell their side of the story. One is eyeing the exit and fantasising about a life without constant tenant texts, while the other is building a property empire through some clever strategies.

Ready to dive in? Let’s go.


Landlord A: The “I’m Ready to Get Out” Guy

Meet me, your standard run-of-the-mill landlord. Twelve properties, years of experience, and once-upon-a-time dreams of passive income and a stress-free retirement. Now? I’m ready to jump ship and never look back. Why? Because being a landlord in the UK in 2024 feels like trying to swim against a tidal wave of taxes, rules, and rising costs.

1. Regulations: More Rules Than a Board Game

Remember the good old days when being a landlord meant finding a tenant, handing over the keys, and waiting for the rent to roll in? Yeah, me neither. Those days are long gone. These days, I spend more time navigating housing laws than I do managing my properties.

Selective licensing is another gem, where local councils require landlords to pay for licenses just to rent out their properties in certain areas. It’s yet another cost that eats into profits, with no clear return except the privilege of operating legally. Add that to the already sky-high compliance costs from Section 24 and EPC standards, and you start wondering if owning property is worth the hassle.

2. Taxes: The Government’s Favourite Piggy Bank

Once upon a time, landlords could deduct mortgage interest from their taxable income and life made sense. But Section 24 put an end to that, and now we’re being taxed on money we don’t actually have in the bank. It’s like taxing a baker on cakes he hasn’t even sold yet.

On top of that, managing tenants on Universal Credit is a whole new headache. With the benefit payments now going directly to tenants instead of landlords, you end up chasing rent that was supposed to cover your mortgage. If tenants decide to use that money for something else, you’re left out in the cold—literally, if you’re still responsible for heating repairs.

Add to this the 3% stamp duty surcharge and capital gains tax when you eventually sell your properties, and you’re left with a profit margin thinner than a slice of budget supermarket ham. At this point, I’m starting to think I should’ve just bought stocks or, I don’t know, rare Pokémon cards.

3. Interest Rates: My Mortgage Payments are Skyrocketing

With rising interest rates, my mortgage payments are now higher than a tenant’s expectations on moving day. What used to be a nice cushion of monthly rental income is now barely enough to cover the bills, repairs, and that inevitable call about a “funny noise” coming from the boiler. Spoiler: it’s never funny.

At this rate, I’m starting to think I’d be better off selling up and spending my twilight years drinking tea on a sunny beach rather than getting calls at midnight about leaky roofs. Anyone want twelve properties? I’ll throw in a “quirky” tenant or two for free.

4. Tenants Have More Rights Than I Do

Don’t get me wrong, tenants should have rights, but with Section 21 on its way out, I’m going to have to roll out the red carpet if I ever want a tenant to leave. Rent controls? I can feel them lurking in the shadows, waiting to make my life even harder. Soon, it’ll be easier to evict my family from Christmas dinner than to get a problem tenant out of my property.

All of this combined? I’m seriously considering an early retirement from the landlord life. Maybe I’ll start a dog-walking business. No paperwork, no regulations, and at least dogs don’t break boilers.


Landlord B: The “I’m All In” Guy

And now, enter me. Young, ambitious, and building a property empire faster than my friends can get their first mortgage approved. While others are groaning about taxes and tenants, I’ve found a way to sidestep the pitfalls and keep my property business booming. The secret? A Family Investment Company (FIC). It’s the secret sauce that’s turned my 16-property portfolio into a money-making machine.

1. The FIC: My Property Superpower

Setting up my portfolio through a Family Investment Company was hands-down the smartest move I’ve ever made. Here’s why: it allows me to get around many of the tax issues that are pushing other landlords to the edge.

With an FIC, I’m not hit by Section 24 like individual landlords are. I can still deduct 100% of my mortgage interest as a business expense. That’s right—while others are sweating bullets over their tax bills, I’m keeping more of my rental income.

On top of that, FICs are taxed at corporation tax rates, which are much lower than the higher rates of income tax that can hit personal landlords hard. And if I ever want to pass these properties down to my family? Easy. I can pass shares in the company rather than transferring the properties themselves, which means I’m not clobbered by inheritance tax as a result of my freezer/growth share structure. Essentially, I’ve built a fortress around my portfolio, and it’s working wonders.

2. Infinite ROI: The Dream Realised

Thanks to refinancing, I’ve managed to pull out 100% of my original capital investment. That’s right, I’ve got all my money back, and I still own the properties. Now, everything I earn from these rentals is pure profit. That’s what we call an infinite return on investment, folks.

While others are panicking about mortgage rates and cash flow, I’m sitting back, enjoying the returns. I’ve already taken my money out, and the properties just keep delivering. This is the landlord dream: all the upside with none of my own cash still tied up in the deal.

3. Leverage: The Key to Building My Empire

Leverage is the magic word in property investing. I’ve been able to refinance my properties, pulling out equity to buy more. It’s like playing Monopoly, but with real money. And the best part? As my portfolio grows, so does my income. My tenants are basically paying for my next property purchase.

Interest rates? Sure, they’re higher, but I’ve locked in fixed-rate deals, and my rental income still more than covers the costs. As long as you play it smart, leverage can help you build a property empire without needing to throw in tons of extra cash.

4. Tenants and Demand Are on My Side

Let’s be real: rental demand is higher than ever. Homeownership is out of reach for many, which means people are renting for longer—and I’m more than happy to supply the demand. With high-quality properties in prime areas, I’ve got tenants lining up. Good tenants, competitive rents, and hardly any vacancy? That’s the dream.

Sure, tenants are more demanding these days, but that’s why I keep my properties in top shape. They stay happy, I stay happy, and the rent keeps rolling in.

5. A Buyer’s Market: Snapping Up Discounted Properties

As more landlords head for the exit, I’m seeing a golden opportunity. With so many motivated sellers looking to offload their properties due to rising taxes and regulations, the market is flooded with discounted deals. These landlords want out, and I’m more than happy to step in and take those properties off their hands—at a bargain price. It’s a classic case of “one man’s burden is another man’s treasure,” and I’m building my portfolio faster and cheaper as a result. Timing is everything in property, and right now, it’s a buyer’s market for those who know how to play the game.

6. Playing by the Rules Is Easier Than You Think

Look, regulations are tough—but they’re not insurmountable. I’ve already upgraded my properties to meet EPC Band C well ahead of the 2030 deadline. It wasn’t cheap, but now my properties are energy-efficient, and my tenants love it. Plus, it future-proofs my portfolio for years to come.

As for tenant rights? Bring it on. I’m not worried. If you treat tenants fairly and maintain your properties well, you’ll have no trouble. The bad landlords are the ones who’ll feel the squeeze—not those of us who are doing things by the book.


Just when you thought we had enough drama with landlords either running for the hills or expanding their portfolios, enter me. I’m the one who saw the storm coming early, sold off most of my properties, and now sitting on a pile of cash, sipping my tea, and watching the market unfold like a Netflix thriller. But here’s the twist: after hearing Landlord B’s bullish case, I’m thinking of jumping back into the game—this time with a whole new playbook.

Landlord C: The “I’m Thinking of Getting Back In” Guy

So here I am, with a healthy pile of cash after selling off my portfolio just before taxes, regulations, and rising costs hit the fan. I thought I’d retired from the property game for good. But now, after hearing Landlord 2’s take on Family Investment Companies (FICs), infinite ROI, and snagging discounted properties, I’m starting to think it might be time to dust off my old landlord hat and give it another go. Only this time, I’m going to be smarter, leaner, and more strategic.

1. Inspired by the FIC Strategy

Landlord B’s FIC approach has me seriously intrigued. The idea of reducing my tax liability, retaining mortgage interest deductions, and passing down assets tax-efficiently? It’s ticking all the boxes. The whole Section 24 disaster doesn’t seem so terrifying if you’re running everything through a company structure. With the cash from my previous sales, setting up an FIC feels like a no-brainer for getting back into the game while avoiding the tax traps that drove me out in the first place.

2. Commercial to Residential Conversions: My New Angle

But I’m not just thinking of diving back into standard buy-to-let properties. I’m eyeing another opportunity that fits perfectly with my need to pivot in this changing market: commercial to residential developments under Permitted Development rules. With office spaces being converted to flats faster than you can say “property boom,” I see a great opportunity to transform unused spaces into profitable residential units.

It’s a lower-cost way to get into the market, and with my capital on hand, I can make moves quickly. If you haven’t heard about these strategies, check out this link to a pivoting strategy article, where I found some solid ideas on how to adapt in today’s market. I’m seriously considering leveraging my funds into these projects as a way to diversify and take advantage of a new kind of rental demand.

3. Seizing Discounted Deals

And let’s not forget the cherry on top: with so many landlords running for the exit, there’s a glut of discounted properties just waiting for someone like me to scoop them up. It’s hard to resist the temptation of getting back in when the deals are so good. While I was once the one selling, now I’m thinking about being the one snapping up bargains from those who can’t wait to leave the market.

4. Time to Pivot and Prosper

The property game isn’t the same as when I first started, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth playing. With new rules, new strategies, and a more flexible approach, I’m seriously contemplating a full-scale pivot back into the market. Whether it’s through an FIC, commercial-to-residential conversions, or snapping up heavily discounted properties, I see real potential for a fresh start in this market.

The way I see it? Why sit on a pile of cash when I could be building a new empire—one that’s smarter, more tax-efficient, and primed for today’s property landscape?


The Verdict: Flee, Flourish, or Pivot?

So, we’ve got three landlords with three very different perspectives:

  • One is burned out and ready to sell up.
  • One is bullish, growing his portfolio using clever strategies.
  • And now, we have the wildcard: the landlord who thought he was out but might just dive back in—this time, with a pivoted approach.

Whether you’re ready to run, double down, or pivot into something new, the UK property market is still full of opportunities. The real question is: how are you going to play it?


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anthony altman

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9:54 AM, 12th September 2024, About 2 months ago

Fourth strategy !
Sell all UK property, buy elsewhere in the world where you are not the victims of discrimination, injustice and inhuman levels of stress

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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10:45 AM, 12th September 2024, About 2 months ago

Reply to the comment left by anthony altman at 12/09/2024 - 09:54
You make a very good point Anthony.

I first recognised the writing on the wall in 2015 and made my physical exit from the UK a year later to become non-resident for taxation purposes and to enjoy a far better lifestyle.

When Russia first invaded Ukraine I made a lot of predictions (particularly inflation and interest rate rises) that have since come true. These are the key points I wrote in March 2020 ...

"I predict high inflation across Europe, and as night follows day you can expect interest rates to increase too.

The financial cost of the war in Ukraine will be felt across the whole of Europe.

Europe is caught in between two relics of the Cold War which, in my opinion, have no purpose to exist in the 21st Century, let alone to hold any power, i.e. NATO and Putin.

Both Ukraine and Russia are European Countries with whom Europe is co dependent in the 21st Century."

- see https://www.property118.com/war-in-europe-by-mark-alexander/

I wrote my latest article yesterday because I resonate with all three types of landlords.

Mick Roberts

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13:21 PM, 12th September 2024, About 2 months ago

Very good.
You forgot the 4th Landlord who wants to sell, but can't be disloyal to his tenants, many who have been there over 20 years.
And this Landlord will eventually be bit.

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14:29 PM, 12th September 2024, About 2 months ago

The fifth type - stays in, but waiting to see what happens next.....(popcorn optional)

No real interest in expanding further (who wants the stress?), and not wanting to go down the FIC route either because that assumes a longer term strategy. Biggest Question - Do I want to be still here in 10 years time doing this? Is a burden to the next generation if I pass it all on?

Property wont be sold when (I meant if EVER a tenant moves out) - just to spite. Refuse to pay even more GCT.

While waiting for the next gripping installment of 'Labour - the Car Crash Years LIVE', any new tenants will be referenced to within an inch of their life. Any sniff of concerns, will end the application dead. New rents will be raised to current market rate and old ones as soon as contractually possible.

Hard ball while paying the waiting game...

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15:55 PM, 12th September 2024, About 2 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Reluctant Landlord at 12/09/2024 - 14:29
That's it, it's a burden now in't it.

Who's telling Angela Rayner we din't sign up to this years ago when we took these tenants on that wouldn't be able to comply with the new rules.

What I can't have MY house back when I want it? For whatever reason? It was called Rent. Not Give.

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17:26 PM, 12th September 2024, About 2 months ago

I'm struggling to believe the government can change the rules of an existing Tenancy agreement (contract). Echr anyone?

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18:10 PM, 12th September 2024, About 2 months ago

Reply to the comment left by Stuart Rothwell at 12/09/2024 - 17:26
They can't, but they can change the law

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10:20 AM, 14th September 2024, About 2 months ago

I’m a big fan of Rich Dad Poor Dad. In it, there’s a line “when the law changes, the future changes”. I don’t think anyone should just sit and watch passively. Be active and strategic. Understand how this new law is going to affect you. If you ever want to sell… you won’t be selling a vacant property as you can’t boot out the tenant. They could be there forever. This could be good or bad. One size doesn’t fit all. I’d encourage everyone to adapt. And maybe don’t focus only on BTL. There are other options - commercial or other types of tenants… eg mum and baby units, supported living, unaccompanied minors. Sone companies will take the property off your hands and manage it for you…

But, if you have a crappy tenant … I’d say now is the time to get out. I’m issuing a section 21 next week as I’ve one tenant who is perpetually late with the rent and I’ve had enough. Be mindful of “bargains” that you think you’re picking up with “tenants in situ”… you could be walking into a trap.

And renting out property isn’t the only business in the world. You can rent out other assets too! Don’t get stuck on just “houses”. It could be vehicles. Landlordsexodus.com is sympathetic to the plight of landlords as are many other industries who would welcome the investment that ex-landlords would bring.

As a group, landlords are a hated breed and I kind of look forward to more exiting the market and let the market forces play out because rents are going to sky rocket, as will demand… and I think anyone who stays in ought to get extra because you’ll be bearing all the risk. The government want to make you, the landlord, responsible for the tenant. So even when they can’t pay… you can’t take it away (your house) because the government want YOU to carry that burden because they think your pockets are deep. Maybe with high numbers walking away, eviction notices submitted… the courts will be overwhelmed and they may admit to needing to rethink… or maybe not… aren’t some councils giving away tents?

I believe winter is coming and it’s going to be rough for a lot of people. The failure to just address the housing shortage head on is the root cause. This renters bill is just a distraction.

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