Shelter again with latest TV advert!

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 12:44What you say about the insecurity of lodgers is theoretically true but the experiences you describe are few and far between. What regular landlords object to is the way Shelter words its commercials to give the impression to the general public that anyone in rented accommodation is likely to suffer the experience of this medic when we are all too well aware that it takes us over six months to evict a delinquent tenant. When the term "landlord/lady" is used, people in general will assume a tenant is involved and jump to the conclusion that the landlady is flouting the regulations. This reinforces the impression for us landlords that Shelter never misses an opportunity to blacken the reputation of landlords in the public conciousness, hence the title of this thread.
Junior doctors are not particularly well paid but it is surprising if they cannot even afford to rent a studio flat of their own and have to lodge in someone else's house, in full knowledge of the very different conditions that apply to lodgers.

Reply to the comment left by Old Mrs Landlord at 01/04/2020 - 14:19
Personally, Old Mrs Landlord[ lady, sorry ]
I don't believe the story Shelter published, they have ' form ' for altering the truth and using actors, nor do I believe ' Marie ' who is clearly a - Shelter plant.

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 12:44
The reason I know this is because I know the parties involved.

You join this forum a few months ago, tell landlords how they should be running their businesses and then just happen to know the parties involved in a fundraising ad about bad landlords.

That is quite some coincidence!

Is this story in any way related to the advert?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-latest-nhs-doctor-evicted-covid-19-oxford-a9425166.html

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 12:44
Thanks for clarifying - so as someone else posted am I right in saying that this is the case that is used in the Shelter Advert?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-latest-nhs-doctor-evicted-covid-19-oxford-a9425166.html

I haven’t got the Shelter advert to hand, but pretty sure it’s says or strongly suggested the word Landlord and/or Tenant, when in reality a lodger living in someone else’s home is quite a different arrangement, from a social and also a contractual legal way.

Whilst I don’t condone this sort of behaviour (in fact find it pretty disgusting) , especially during a crisis I do strongly feel that Shelter should have made the lodger arrangements clear in the advert as fundamentally I don’t see this as fair example and the word Landlord & Tenant would strongly suggest this refers to the mainstream PRS.

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 12:44
Marie. Not disputing what now is clarified that the case portrayed relates to a lodger. The point is that the advert implies the doctor was a tenant being illegally evicted, thus vilifying landlords. This is very different to the arrangements with a lodger. The advert obscured the full facts and is thus considered immoral.

Reply to the comment left by Jireh Homes at 01/04/2020 - 18:06
God no I don’t work for Shelter! But from what I have read, I know you don’t like them, and think that their only motive is to ruin your lives. I don’t know much about them, I just know that their telephone helpline is very helpful for people in a genuine housing crisis. I have been forced to use it myself in the past, and I had no alternative agency I could go to for the advice which I needed at the time. They used to provide solicitors in some areas, but they all seem to have disappeared now. I don’t think has anything to do with “vilifying landlords”. But during this crisis, Shelter are the only people who I know of who you can turn to for housing advice, and they desperately need more housing advisers for their phone lines. The lines are rammed-people can’t get through. Council housing offices are shut, the CAB is shut, everything is shut. We are a country on lockdown, many living in fear that they will become ill and possibly die of covid 19. So it’s not surprising that landladies such as the one I know will ask their doctor lodgers to leave! She did it because she was terrified of covid 19! She is a lovely lady, and has taken in lodgers for many years. They have all been very happy there. I know a nurse who has just been given a week to get out of her rented room, as the landlord she lives with is frightened he will catch covid 19. He regularly drops provisions at the door of his elderly father’s nursing home, and is frightened that if he gets covid 19 and dies, his elderly father will lose his son. The nurse has lived there happily for almost five years, and she works on an elderly ward. The other lodger is a nurse working in a doctor’s surgery and she has also had her week’s notice. She has lived there for two years. The government are saying all evictions are illegal at this time, but lodgers need to know where they stand and so do the minority of tenants who live with the “slum landlords” we have all heard about who illegally evict their tenants by force. Some do it out of ignorance of the law, others are just bullies. But some who have had their possession hearings delayed, and who are owed significant amounts of rent, are bound to try and evict their tenants. We cannot deny that these scumbags exist. They give every landlord on this forum a very bad name. I know Shelter don’t house anyone anymore, but so what? Why don’t you want tenants who are being treated unfairly to receive legal advice about where they stand? You are all doing everything to the letter of the law, so Shelter are no threat to you.

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 18:31
Or am I missing something? I have read pages and pages of what sounds like extreme paranoia about Shelter. I just don’t understand.

Reply to the comment left by paul robinson at 01/04/2020 - 17:44
I think that if you live in your Own home, any personal concerns you have for your own safety is your own priority, ( and business, for that matter )

I don't think its anyone's place to criticise a Resident Landlord for choosing who they wish to let a part of Their home to.

Reply to the comment left by Marie at 01/04/2020 - 18:31
The lady doth protest too much, methinks