Revenge Eviction or was the landlord right?

Revenge Eviction or was the landlord right?

8:17 AM, 31st October 2014, About 10 years ago 63

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Please take a close look at this picture in Shelter’s latest propaganda (below).

Have a look at the walls and the blinds!

Would you live like this?

Clearly this mother has very little self respect and hasn’t touched any cleaning products for years.

Was the property like this when she moved in? If so why did she move in?

Even if that’s all she can afford, and it was in that state on day one, surely she would want to clean it up for the health of her child if nothing else?

These are the pictures that are being shown to our MP’s to influence licensing. If we want to stop the likes of Shelter from getting away with this ludicrous propaganda then landlords need to be asking the right questions so that people take a step back and think before they dig deep into their pockets to pay more.

For the record, if I found one of my tenants was living in these conditions I would evict, and probably report the mother to social services too. Now if that deserves the tag of “revenge eviction” I plead guilty.

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Joe Bloggs

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16:24 PM, 2nd November 2014, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "All BankersAreBarstewards Smith" at "02/11/2014 - 15:59":

you are also misquoting me.... i said 'improve', not 'provide'.
HHSRS doesnt really 'set the minimum standard for properties' as it factors in risk factors such as the age of the occupier. so two identical properties can have different HHSRS scores.
furthermore, it is not something the tenant can enforce...as you say it is enforceable by the council. also it is incredibly complicated.
perhaps you would explain what shocks you?

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16:38 PM, 2nd November 2014, About 10 years ago

Joe - HHSRS is a way to improve the standards in PRS - the fact that it varies with the occupants should not stop landlords doing so..

I do not have time to find the relevant regs..... but

""LANDLORDS ARE UNDER NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO IMPROVE A DWELLING EG IMPROVE INSULATION, VENTILATION AND HEATING ETC""

by 2015 (I think) no landlord will be allowed to rent a property if its EPC rating is F - this WILL force landlords to improve poorly insulated properties....

There has been so much money swilling about in recent years for insulation, new boilers, cavity wall insulation etc that I cannot think of any reason not to have already improved rental property - and also to make the tenants lives better with cheaper fuel bills.... but then maybe your definition of a good landlord falls way below mine....

Steve Hards

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17:54 PM, 2nd November 2014, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Joe Bloggs" at "02/11/2014 - 13:50":

If you mean how did I find the original image, I used the TinEye image search engine. http://www.tineye.com/

Cheers, Steve

Joe Bloggs

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23:27 PM, 2nd November 2014, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "All BankersAreBarstewards Smith" at "02/11/2014 - 16:38":

'but then maybe your definition of a good landlord falls way below mine….'
I DONT THINK I EVER EXPRESSED AN OPINION ABOUT WHAT CONSTITUTES A GOOD LANDLORD (THE DEFINITION OF WHICH IS RATHER SUBJECTIVE). THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT THE LANDLORD HAS NO OBLIGATION TO IMPROVE THE PROPERTY; THE OBLIGATION IS TO KEEP IT IN REPAIR. I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT ABOUT POOR EPC's, BUT I BELIEVE THIS ONLY APPLIES TO A NEW LET SO AGAIN ITS NOT SOMETHING AN EXISTING TENANT CAN ENFORCE TO GET IMPROVEMENTS.

Colin Dartnell

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0:24 AM, 3rd November 2014, About 10 years ago

Shelter would love this, it's got us arguing amongst ourselves.

I think the point should be, if we offer a property that is of a good standard in the first place then the tenant wouldn't have any reason to complain and ask for improvements.

Colin Dartnell

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0:25 AM, 3rd November 2014, About 10 years ago

Oh and Joe Please stop shouting at us!

Joe Bloggs

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10:40 AM, 3rd November 2014, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Colin Dartnell" at "03/11/2014 - 00:25":

it is in upper case for clarity so as to separate from the quote. thought thats obvious.

a 'good standard' is very subjective. thats why its vital to look at the legislation.

Hugh Jass

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11:49 AM, 7th November 2014, About 10 years ago

Mark, I looked at the pic then read your comments I thought the same...The problem is when tenants see this, they'll think it's the landlords obligation to come and clean their home...you going to write to shelter about this?

Jireh Homes

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20:24 PM, 9th November 2014, About 10 years ago

Shelter already has the ear of the Scottish Parliament with a consultation paper issued which proposes to remove the right to end a tenancy at the end of the agreed term (currently 6 or 12 months), introducing a minimum term of 3 years and rent controls. Hopefully with canvassing from Landlord interests sense will prevail but change is on the way! And once introduced in Scotland it will roll over to England & Wales.

Steve Gracey

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12:54 PM, 21st November 2014, About 10 years ago

Tenants just need to remember that the law also obligates them to do certain things including using the property in a tenant like manner (Lord Denning) and not allowing waste (damage to you and me). Google it.

If you are creating condensation you need to fix it or at the very least offer to fix it. The Landlord is not required to pay for minor repairs like this although some may well choose to just because they are such nice guys.

Most people would say £10 and 4 screws is classed as a minor repair so just get off your lazy ass and do it, stop bleating and move on. Out of courtesy it is of course polite to mention it to your Landlord... "I'm afraid I've created a bit of condensation when showering. As I don't want to leave the windows open for security reasons would you mind if I fitted one of these"

http://www.homesecureshop.co.uk/safe-t-bar-upvc-door-window-chain-restrictor

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