Proof of tenancy for UC?

Proof of tenancy for UC?

0:03 AM, 3rd March 2023, About 2 years ago 19

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Hello, My excellent tenant of 8 years standing wishes to apply for universal credit. The requirements state :

We will only accept the following documents:

  • up-to-date tenancy agreement
  • letter from your landlord or landlord’s agent
  • rent book
  • rent receipts

The original agreement made in 2015 was a 12 month AST and is now monthly periodic. Is there a way to provide an “up to date tenancy agreement” as requested?

Thank you,

Martin


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Martin

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14:39 PM, 4th March 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Steve Riley-Snelling at 03/03/2023 - 17:41
Thanks for everyone's help. I have drafted a letter as per the UC requirements and will see how we go.

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18:47 PM, 4th March 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by DSR at 03/03/2023 - 11:01
Hi I deal with uc and tenancy agreements regularly a you have got to do is upload the first page and the rent amount page and the last page with signatures ect with a covering letter from landlord that's more than enough for them to be able to pay the rent for your tennant

Jim Kirk

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21:19 PM, 4th March 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Dennis Forrest at 03/03/2023 - 13:25
Hi.
Not sure if you are being ironic.
If so apologies.
However.
When rental agreement us weekly it is a legal requirement.
LL commits criminal offence not to supply one
They are available in stationers such WH Smith.
Saw them there a few weeks back.
Genuinely hope this helps.

Dennis Forrest

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7:01 AM, 5th March 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Jim Kirk at 04/03/2023 - 21:19Ref my query re rent books. I have been renting out property since 1995. Mostly AST's and a few company lets. I just wondered whether rent books were some obvious piece of legislation regarding AST's that I had overlooked for all these years. In other word tenants if they are paying rent always need a rent book. I did not realise that it never applied to monthly rents and therefore would never have affected me.

Chris Wilson

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8:07 AM, 5th March 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Monty Bodkin at 03/03/2023 - 11:13
I did this over a year ago and after repeated calls and passed from one person or department to another nobody contacted my landlord, I have ended up doing the whole lot myself, this is still pending

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11:24 AM, 6th March 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Div Duffy at 04/03/2023 - 18:47
as a private LL there is NO mechanism for you to do this to UC. Being all 'client led' all you can do is get the tenant to get the info to UC by their journal or then they have to go to a UC office to do in person.

If one more bloody UC idiot on the phone says I can use the Landlords portal I am going to scream....

proof there is little training/understanding as UC dont know their ar$$ from their elbow yet they are a the frontline supposed to be dealing with this....

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11:27 AM, 6th March 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Chris Wilson at 05/03/2023 - 08:07
none from UC will EVER contact the LL directly about anything. All client led so tenant has to sort this out themselves.
All a LL can do is provide the info to the tenant and hope the tenant does the rest. No incentive of course for the tenant to do anything of course, especially when comes to reporting rent increases as a result of a change of circumstance....

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22:16 PM, 6th March 2023, About 2 years ago

Whats worse is that I can advise UC about the increase in rent, this does not mean that they will actually make any note of this however, despite also threatening to remove any income by not providing it.

andrew hodgkinson

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10:03 AM, 7th March 2023, About 2 years ago

A copy of the original TA will be perfectly fine but a cover note explaining that the rental agreement is a rolling TA will make it easier for UC to understand and process the UC claim.
The biggest problem with UC is everything is done online, so if there is a question or the person processing the UC claim isn't well informed this can cause weeks or even months of delays.

Without being rude, you basically have to spell it out to UC in very basic baby talk, that the TA details meet IC requirements.
In effect doing their job for them, to remove any doubts. So always add a cover from the landlord explaining the details of the TA in simple terms and remember to print and sign your name on the cover note and include the landlords address, email, phone number and date the cover note. That way they have no reason to delay processing the UC claim.
We have to remember the staff at UC are snowed under with work. So making their job easy means the UC claim wont be put on hold because there are questions/doubts about the claim.

The minimum TA that UC requires to process a claim is a 6 month rolling contract that is active at the time of the claim. So the TA could be 5 months into that 6 months TA at the time of the application for UC if you already have a tenant. Once that initial 6 month contract has ended, you can replace it with a rolling monthly contract if you wish.

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