Private address required for HMO Licence!

Reply to the comment left by "Adam Hosker" at "04/06/2014 - 10:45":

I think DPS rules scotch that, there is nothing in there about service addresses, it is full name. address, phone, email and fax of everybody involved.

It might even be invalid if you do not tell the tenant his own name and address!

Reply to the comment left by "Chris Amis" at "04/06/2014 - 11:10":

I think the DPS rules are disgusting. I think at the time, I spoke to some high up people & they just wan't interested. I think their main reason was having your proper address, was if u din't play ball, they could have an address to take u to court etc.

I did say u can have my proper address, just as my local council do for myself, but on the paperwork for tenants, they can have PO Box address.

But no bigwigs being bigwigs won't listen.

The original question was one concerning the legal requirement to provide a home address for an HMO application..........It seems to me that the Housing Act is quite clear on this; the address of the license holder and the manager of the property must be displayed at the property. As has been explained already, any tenant has a legal right to the landlord's home address if they make a written request anyway, so there is no escape from this requirement. Whilst I have some sympathy for landlords who let to the "lower end" of the market, surely however this is a matter of choice? If you cannot take the heat, don't venture into the kitchen?

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Crampton Smith" at "04/06/2014 - 11:53":

Hi Mark

Please show me the legislation which says that a tenant is entitled to know a landlords HOME address. I don't think there is any!

s48 of L&T 1987 says tenants are entitled to an address for service but nothing more that that. s47 is not applicable to residential property.

s1 of L&T 1985 has always been a service address too.
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Reply to the comment left by "Mark Crampton Smith" at "04/06/2014 - 11:53":

Mark i can see your point of view but i am afraid i see alot of double standards in this law.

I fundamentally believe in people human rights and that everyone has the right to privacy and business should always be separate. If that is not so, then every person in the UK should be made to give there home address to anyone they are doing business with. This will never happen as it would kill the business notion of 'Ltd liability'. Again if its OK for LL's then why have politicians elected to have there own addresses held private for the same security concerns and these people are in public office! I'm sorry it stinks. And before anyone comes out with the 'LL's know the tenants address, that is simply because we are providing a business service to provide the accommodation therefore its unavoidable. Does the CEO of the gas supplier have to give his home address to the tenant as well ? that's a contract so what's the difference? This law if it is a law should be changed.

I would argue that whatever statute says you only need to provide an address for service of documents as anything else i would argue is a breach of your human rights in particular the right to a family life.

Most tenants are great but there are the odd one or two who will brick your windows if you disagree with them.

Avoid the trouble by invoking your human rights to trump any national legislation.

Reply to the comment left by "Alex Williams" at "04/06/2014 - 12:53":

Do LLs have human rights?

Sorry had to lower the tone 🙂

You can google this all day long and get different answers.

Good
http://www.rla.org.uk/docs/enews170712/landlords_addresses.pdf

Bad
http://www.buckles-law.co.uk/site/library/managing_agents_news/requirements_for_landlords_address_on_legal_notices

Same old story, people talking about stuff they have no experience of.

I dare to say, virtually no LHA landlords who deal at the bottom of the Landlord market, would want tenants knowing their home address.

What next, prison guards letting criminals know their home address? And we know what happens when they find out, don’t we.

I can take the heat, & I venture into the kitchen. I just don’t do it naked with me back turned, bending over.

HI All

I have to register as a landlord in the areas where I have property they issue me a number which I must put on the tenancy agreements. I also have to put my home address which I feel uncomfortable with but have no choice because of the regulations and law.

I believe that if the tenant has a problem and the landlord does not solve the problem then they should go to the council with the landlord number and the council should write to the landlord at their address.

Any reasonable landlord would want to fix and maintain there property. So this should never happen.

Data protection has all these rules for protection but I feel by giving tenants my home address I am left vulnerable.

Everyone know that there is a criminal element out there. When people realise you are making a good living you can become a target for extortion or blackmail. As many business people know.

I know this sounds dramatic but there is areas in the UK which are run by local gangs. How long before they see this is an opportunity to earn extra money.

By using the landlord register they can see how many properties a landlord has.

I think there should be a rethink of the rules. Yes the council should know who the landlord is and where he lives but I do not agree with the tenants and other people having access to my details.