No fault evictions? You are having a laugh!

Very well said.
When we signed the tenant up 20 years ago, where did it say
You can have this house forever?
We didn't sign up to this
It's called RENT.
Someone decipher that in the dictionary.
I'm doing Section 21 as we speak, doing a log on it to publish when finished.
Started May, still about 4 months away at least.
My tenant moved out, said I could sell the house. Sold the house. Tenant moved back in unbeknown to me and buyer. I've lost the buyer

"It came after three attempts of evicting the same tenant using section 8 (discretionary grounds) over a two year period"

Be interested to know what discretionary ground(s) you went after?

Why you chose a discretionary ground instead of a S21 in the first place?

And with the new changes in the reform Bill what path would this have been with the removal of S21?

"The suggestion s21 is done for no reason is deranged?"

Forgive me for being picky, but surely this should have been a statement, not a question?

They could ensure that (good) private tenants have the security of tenure they deserve by making the PRS attractive to investors.
If the PRS was attractive to investors, landlords would be able to sell to other landlords and (good) tenants could stay in their homes.
As it is, my kids don’t want to inherit tenanted properties because the law is an ass. My tenants will have to leave sooner or later and this causes me sleepless nights.

First we need a Tenant register. We won't get one but there will be a Landlord register because Landlords are easy targets. But have you thought about the Tenants from Hell who after many months of not paying rent, terrorising neighbours, and totally wrecking Landlord's property are eventually evicted under Sec 21? LA's don't have homes to rent them and Landlords have no way of checking so they are perfectly free to do exactly the same to some other poor unsuspecting Landlord. We need a Tenant register.

Reply to the comment left by Godfrey Jones at 23/09/2024 - 14:00
NEVER take any tenant who qualifies, or is likely to qualify, for legal aid, this pretty well excludes all benefit tenants, shame, but it is what Shelter and Generation Rent have campaigned for all these years.

It honestly feels like they want to get rid of S21 because it's being used for reasons that are covered by other grounds. It's obvious why, it's easier and it works.

One of the unfortunate things is that like GR and Shelter et al, you've gotten hung up on the wording and arguing about it from one side.

With section 21, you are right, there is a reason why you are issuing. But that reason may have nothing to do with your tenant. You absolutely have the right to evict the tenant from your property for any reason that you wish, but you are directly affecting another person/family and making their life worse through your choices.

Comments from people like TheMaluka really don't help. Look at what you are saying. Is that the impression that you want the general public to have of landlords?

Reply to the comment left by The Forever Tenant at 23/09/2024 - 14:41
I’m with you TFT.

Most landlords want (and need) good tenants. A good tenant is one that looks after the property in a tenant-like manner and pays the rent in full and on time. This ensures the landlord can pay the BTL mortgage, gas & electricity safety and many other bills that keeps the property available.

However, there are many bills that the landlord needs to pay that deliver little or zero benefit to the tenant. Bills such as Selective Licensing (a tax by another name), Income Tax, Capital Gains Tax, Council Tax (when the property is vacant because a tenant has trashed it before leaving with rent arrears), additional property Stamp Duty Land Tax, Value Added Tax on any repairs and services.

Lots of taxes listed there. The Treasury does rather well from the PRS, don’t you think? That is, the Treasury does rather well from the private tenant, don’t you think? After all, any cost that the landlord incurs for the property are rightly passed on to the tenant (the only person using the property).

If only the PRS was taxed less.

If only it was seen as a good investment

Only then would landlords that wish to exit the sector be able to sell to another landlord - with the tenant in situ.

I’ve never issued Section 8 nor Section 21 notices. I hope that I never need to. However, like many landlords, age is a factor. My kids don’t want to inherit tenanted properties because taxes are too high and they have seen the stress that a bad tenant can impose on a landlord.

I am 9 months in to fixing a property that a tenant trashed. The cost of recovery is 5 years worth of gross rent or approximately 15 years on net rent.

Good tenants deserve bette tenancies. Bad tenants deserve to be dealt with swiftly.

Reply to the comment left by The Forever Tenant at 23/09/2024 - 14:41
And the actions of a tenant don’t affect a LL, and in your words “directly affect[ing] another person/family and making their life worse through [your] choices”?
On Property 118 we read many horror stories of how tenants have gone into arrears, trashed the property, refused to leave etc.
Would you appreciate why many LLs don’t want to risk that - whether in the current S21 age or after it is removed - because the odds (and the Courts) are so heavily skewed in a tenant’s favour. When a LL could be bankrupted or lose many £000s of his hard-earned pension to such a tenant?
Many LLs are of an age where it is time to sell, and I for one don’t want to go through that cost and stress. Having provided good homes to many tenants over the years, there comes a time when LLs need to make decisions for themselves, and housing tenants indefinitely was not part of the contract we signed up to, nor is it our responsibility.
Our decision to sell may affect tenants’ lives, and it may also be uncomfortable for them - and not what any good LL would choose - but let’s not forget that the housing crisis is not of our making, and the problems/fears of not obtaining possession are also fuelling the problem. The Government ‘s neglect of housebuilding and its myopia over S21 is damaging the futures of both LLs and Tenants..
As housing providers LLs are part of the solution to the housing crisis; we are not the problem, and should be encouraged and appreciated, not vilified. It is not right to make LLs the scapegoat here, having to bear all the costs and risk to house tenants and not expect tenants to uphold their end of their contractual responsibility.

Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 23/09/2024 - 10:34
Always get it in writing from the tenant that they have ended the tenancy and left. Then change the locks immediately, which you can do yourself in about 10 minutes for about the same number of pounds. Then if they return they should be trespassing.