New Landlord Association seeking pledges

To Michael Bond and others who have pledged but not emailed. Please do so asap. Michael I dont know what access the NLA have to civil servants or ministers but clearly their access is not very effective. Sect 24, Selective licensing, £30k civil penalty fines and Shelter running amok. How could it be worse. Rent controls and 3 year tenancies are about the only punishment left. They have hammeted us non stop and vilified us. I personally have nothing but utter contempt for the 2 main useless organisations
To give readers an example. Some time back either the NLA or RLA claimed they scored a victory for landlords. As a result of their representations Gas safe certs would have an extra month validity if tbe check was done early. How absolutely pathetic. Condesending in the extreme. Your Tax relief is gone, you must pay to rent your own property, you are vilified day in day out and can be fined £30k by a busy body council without due process but guess what your landlord organisation has got you a 30 day extension on your gas safe cert.
I must go now, I want to throw up

Reply to the comment left by Larry Sweeney at 04/10/2018 - 19:53It's 2 months
-but I'd question how much that "victory" could be attributed to any landlord association.

Reply to the comment left by Larry Sweeney at 04/10/2018 - 19:53Larry, I'm away. I saw the email request a few days ago and was gonna respond when got back to the office in the UK.
If u need sooner, do u want to put the email out again.
And yes, I've heard from next year 2019, the Govt are trying to make it a CRIMINAL OFFENCE if Landlords don't carry out inspections.
They just done get it.
Cheesing tenants off who don't want regular inspections.
And those Landlords who can't keep track and keep up with these constant attacks, gonna be putting their properties with Letting Agent and more than likely increased rents again to cover yet more outgoings.

Shelter at it again 😡

https://www.propertyindustryeye.com/agents-warned-they-could-face-legal-action-over-no-benefits-tenants-lettings-adverts/

Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 05/10/2018 - 06:09
Hi Mick, have you got a source or further info on the inspections/criminal record thing?

Reply to the comment left by NW Landlord at 05/10/2018 - 07:18It says "lenders and insurers do not allow letting to tenants on benefits."
Why doesn't Shelter hound those lenders and insurers (for being discriminatory)?
If those lenders and insurers are confident of their legal positions (NOT being discriminatory), then agents and landlords should be fairly confident too.

Reply to the comment left by Neil Patterson at 25/09/2018 - 09:50
Well done Larry you have my support

I'm in.

Reply to the comment left by Luke P at 05/10/2018 - 07:20No Luke.
I tried to find it via Google for someone else and couldn't quickly find it.
I am only on the small phone internet though.
It was a news feed with between 12 and 20 Anti-Landlord things they trying to bring in next year, some we knew, but the inspection criminal offence thing was shocking.
As we know, Licensing are INSISTING we inspect I think it's every 4 months or less than 6 months. Which I get for some to avoid cannabis grows etc. But criminal offence if we don't inspect? Come on.
Queue up please Landlords, invest your money, start a business, help the homeless, oh by the way, when you've done all that, we then gonna bring in new rules we din't tell u at the outset. And if u fall foul of some of these rules, we gonna then criminal prosecute u Police CPS etc. in a court of law.
Yes, conviction for just doing your job but falling short cause tenant don't keep to arrangements.
Someone should be adding all these quotes up and then showing em to Govt Shelter Citizens Advice, Homeless etc. In 3 years when they saying they din't know what went wrong.

So far I've kept quiet on the new National Landlord Alliance (or whatever name you eventually settle on), as I think it is a good idea in principle, but the devil is in the detail, so it all depends on how it pans out. In principle, I would be willing to pledge £100 to join a Landlord Alliance if I believe that it will benefit landlords (I will email my pledge Larry).

However, I am aware that we already have a Landlord Union that was set up to fight injustices against landlords (Property118 set this up a couple of years ago, and I paid to be a lifetime member), but since the Birmingham Midshires success I've heard nothing about what legal battles they are now fighting, if any. - Mark/Neil, can we have an update please?

If we already have a Landlords Union who are fighting injustices on a legal front, i.e. judicial reviews etc, then what exactly will the new National Landlord Alliance be doing that is different to this? Will it be concentrating on promoting good landlord stories in the media? or lobbying politicians to policy changes? or will it simply be a platform for slagging off Shelter and the other anti-landlord organisations?

If landlords are going to try and change policies, then I believe that we have to argue our points from the position of how it will affect TENANTS, because the politicians and public do not care about landlords, but they do care about tenants. So for example, if we wish to argue against selective licensing, then it needs to be worded so as to show the detriment to the tenants (not the detriment to the landlords), e.g. rent rises, intrusion into their home to do inspections, invasion of privacy by Councils needing to know who lives where, unnecessary and intrusive works being carried out (perhaps against the tenant's wishes), increased likelihood of landlord selling up and tenant being made homeless, etc, etc.