Nationwide scraps remortgages for Buy to Let !!!

Nationwide scraps remortgages for Buy to Let !!!

10:37 AM, 7th February 2014, About 11 years ago 21

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In an announcement that seems to make no sense, the Nationwide who own their own Buy to Let arm “The Mortgage Works”, have said they will no longer accept remortgage applications from Nationwide customers where the purpose of an increased loan is buying investment property.

A Nationwide spokeswomen said, “as part of Nationwide’s move to a single mortgage processing system, the society is streamlining a small number of specific lending scenarios and reducing manual processes.”

“As a result, additional lending to existing Nationwide residential mortgage customers to purchase a second property, where the new property is to be let out, is no longer available.”

The Mortgage Works, will still accept remortgage applications to fund buy-to-let, but just not from Nationwide customers.

This seems completely contradictory to have a policy from the parent company banning doing business for the purposes of its subsidiary!

Andy Young of TBMC said “there have been restrictions on capital-raising through remortgages for business purposes, so this may be the reason for their decision. Even then, this is a confusing policy indeed.”

In probably even more of a controversial move the Nationwide have stopped lending to our armed forces when they are based overseas serving our country.Nationwide


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Steve Gracey

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12:29 PM, 10th February 2014, About 11 years ago

I experienced this from Nationwide a little while ago. As a long standing customer of theirs my remortgage was rejected as I was using it for property investment. This was a shame because their rate was pretty good - 5yrs fixed at 2.7% with no fees I think.

Shortly after being rejected we then decided to do a loft extension and new kitchen on our home and despite some suspicions from NW (we had to prove builders estimates) the money was soon released to us.

Shortly after receiving the money we changed our mind about needing the loft extension and kitchen and I just chose to do what I wanted with the money. I don't want to say on here what I spent the money on other than I didn't fritter it away on holidays or anything but I did use it for an income producing tangible non depreciating asset.

Colin Childs

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13:28 PM, 10th February 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Steve Gracey" at "10/02/2014 - 12:29":

The lender has fulfilled it's regulatory duties that's the important matter. There's no comeback on them should something go wrong. Up to each individual to assess the degree of risk they are prepared to take. As the world does cave in on people everyday. When it does there's no sympathy nor grounds for complaint.

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13:52 PM, 10th February 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Colin Childs" at "10/02/2014 - 13:28":

I guess you could say I simply did a West Brom.

The Banks / lenders have demonstrated that it's ok to unilaterally change your side of any loan agreement if you think it may suit you better.

Tracey Newbie Landlord

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21:06 PM, 20th February 2014, About 11 years ago

I have 2 BTL mortgages with TMW, both locked into a low initial rate.
Does this mean that, in a couple of years time when the rates jump up, I won't be able to remortgage my BTL's?
Or is it just for residential customers?

Colin Childs

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21:10 PM, 20th February 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Tracey Newbie Landlord" at "20/02/2014 - 21:06":

You won't be able to release further equity from the properties with TMW. If that's your question.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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21:16 PM, 20th February 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Colin Childs" at "20/02/2014 - 21:10":

That's not the way I read this Colin, how did you arrive at that conclusion please?

My understanding is that only residential borrowers of Nationwide Building are affected by this and only then if they want to increase their mortgage to fund BTL deposits. For far as I am aware, borrowers of TMW are not affected at all, even though it is a Nationwide subsidiary.
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Colin Childs

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21:25 PM, 20th February 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "20/02/2014 - 21:16":

" they will no longer accept remortgage applications from Nationwide customers where the purpose of an increased loan is buying investment property."

I read this in the context of the Nationwide as a group, i.e. inclusive of all it's subsidiaries. In effect a board level policy (directive) rather than at operating division discretion.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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21:45 PM, 20th February 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Colin Childs" at "20/02/2014 - 21:25":

OK, let's see what Neil Patterson says when he looks at this in the morning. He probably has a direct line into the underwriting department at TMW and if he doesn't he will know a man who does. We will know for sure then but I will be gob-smacked if TMW are no longer doing further advances against BTL properties where the purpose is capital raising to fund deposits on further BTL's. As I have already stated, I am as sure as I can be that this policy only applied to existing customers of Nationwide with a Nationwide residential mortgage. Furthermore, what made it even more ridiculous is that Nationwide will still allow a person to refinance their mortgage away from any other lender and to them, even if the purpose of the remortgage is raising capital to fund BTL deposits. In other words, only existing Nationwide residential borrowers get screwed by this crazy piece of new criteria, hence it making headline news in most of the financial press.
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22:05 PM, 20th February 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "20/02/2014 - 21:45":

Source of deposit will become increasingly important. Borrowed funds merely make the leveraged position less tolerant of any financial distress.

I await an update with interest.

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8:44 AM, 21st February 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Colin Childs" at "20/02/2014 - 22:05":

Hi Colin and Mark,

Answer is no problem for a man of my caliber lol 🙂 see below:

1. TMW General Buy to Let criteria

Applies to all products, unless otherwise stated.

Term

Min: 5 years - Max: 35 years.

Loan Purpose

Purchase or remortgage in England, Wales and mainland Scotland
Capital raising for business purposes is not accepted
Raising capital for other legal reasons including for deposit/purchase of a Buy to Let property will be considered
Remortgages only acceptable after the property has been owned for a minimum of 6 months

Further advances

May be considered after a minimum of six full consecutive monthly payments have been made. Subject to revaluation in all instances. The minimum amount is £2,500 (unless otherwise stated).

Capital raising for business purposes is not accepted. Raising capital for other legal reasons including for deposit/purchase of a property will be considered.

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