And the landlord vote goes to – Please vote again

Reply to the comment left by terry sullivan at 14/12/2018 - 10:15Come off it Tezza! Enough of your Lib Dem hate campaign pretty please.
Yes the tuition fees thing was a recipe for disaster... particularly for a party who had zero chance of being in a position to fulfil manifesto promises as realistically and ultimately they would have no option but to get into bed 🛌 with one of the 2 ahem ‘main’ or popular parties in any whole of 🇬🇧 popularity contest.
But surely you must agree that, regardless of your or anyone’s political persuasion, FPTP must go... and should be replaced so that it includes some element of proportional representation?
I’d like to see the above. I’d also like to see some kind of legal accountability for manifesto promises being actually actioned. It’s impossible to do that in coalition tho.

At the moment the figures are that 48% of landlords voted Conservative in 2015 and 28% would today. That is nearly a halving of the landlord vote - extrapolated to the country at large, this would be huge. These results will be presumably be interesting to the party chairman. As for whether this would be compensated for by an increased tenant vote, well I would doubt that - especially as many will be seeing rent rises and hopefully realise that this is because of the attack on the sector as well as the issues with UC etc.
I wrote to Gavin Barwell before the 2017 general election and warned him that he could lose his slim majority purely by losing a section of the landlord vote and he did lose that seat. Of course we don't know if that was the deciding factor, but it may have been. Thanks once more to everyone and keep sharing with other landlords if you can as the higher the numbers, the more robust the findings.

Reply to the comment left by Dr Rosalind Beck at 14/12/2018 - 20:28
Good effort by you Ros.

I honestly don’t mean to be disparaging of your relentless efforts in the slightest, but but but realistically this forum has at least “three dozen” (or maybe considerably more) voyeurs / h8rs.

Nothing would give them greater pleasure but to manipulate a poll given that anyone can submit a 🗳 for on P118. I haven’t checked on this occasion but they usually even go as far as to actively publicise & encourage P118 poll manipulation on their own forum (hpc).

As much as I think what Conservative have done in this parliament is despicable, the alternative Labour party under Jeremy Corbyn doesn't bear thinking about. Therefore I feel obliged to continue voting Conservative even though my reasoning is probably quite poor. In all honesty though, I think Theresa May has already handed the keys to Downing Street to Jeremy Corbyn with recent brexit events.

Reply to the comment left by Mark Shine at 14/12/2018 - 20:58
Btw the reason I often go on about the h8r manipulators from hpc is not to publicise their forum or give them more oxygen that they so desperately crave or even, sorry to say, just to give Mark & Neil’s forum more footfall.

It may do all of the above, but the actual reason I frequently mention the h8rs (@ hpc) is so that any P118 voyeurs who are not h8rs (eg perhaps MP’s research assistants for example) might be encouraged to start doing their own further web research and possibly start to appreciate just quite how manipulative those guys are. It doesn’t take long to realise that the same text (almost word for word in many cases) and large proportion of PRS negative online media comments authors ALL appear to originate from one particular h8r/anti/negative/delusional/manipulative web forum source.

Reply to the comment left by Mark Shine at 14/12/2018 - 20:58Thanks, Mark.t
I can't imagine spending my life shadowing others in that way. Haven't they got their own lives to lead? I've heard they're also a sexist bunch so losers on that front too.
As for the poll, there are so many replies now that I think their input if any won't be very significant. Already the gap between 2015 votes from landlords and current intentions is likely to be greater than the figures here suggest because some tenants may have voted too, so any finding here is likely to be an underestimate of the change. I think it would be fair to say landlord support for the Conservatives has halved.

Edited: In fact, I just checked the results and they've gone haywire, so I'm glad I checked the findings before that surge took off. There may now be a burst of multiple voting! Such devotion to us.

What I may do is send the same questionnaire out from the Alliance - our fans will have to pay £100 each to take part in that lol.

I won't vote for Corbyn and I won't vote for some bumbling fool like Johnson - depends who fronts the Conservatives! Strategically, I maybe forced to vote Conservative just to keep labour out! Anyone abstaining just helps open Corbyn's door that little bit further.

To me it is a straight choice .. The Clear and Present danger of Corbyn, (I like that description Anthony, BTW!!) (also known as "The leader who just won't flush") , or the Conservatives. All other votes or abstensions will only help the aforementioned unflushable one, and economic armageddon will follow.
Thus logic dictates : Vote Tory.

I would vote "other" as a protest vote so that my vote could be distinguished from "can't be bothered". Sadly we don't have the option of "none of the above" which I am sure would win. I have been a staunch Tory voter but feel now it is like Turkeys voting in favour of Xmas

Some of the anti-Corbyn, anti-Labour comments are verging on the hysterical. Many of the commentators claim he's a Marxist who would tank the economy, never-mind the fact that in a broader European context his social democratic policies are the norm and that on so many issues he's been proven to be on the right side of history. Let's face facts, it is the Tories that have caused untold damage to people's lives up and down the country with their endless austerity and now with the Brexit debacle they have chosen to put their party before their country and made the UK a global laughing stock. And it is thanks to the inept policies of George "Nine Jobs" Osborne that times are so tough for landlords, but why let those inconvenient facts get in the way of giving Jeremy Corbyn a good kicking. Sorry, no more - after 8 economically stagnant years of Tory misrule, it's time for a change and Labour are the only ones that can clean up the Tories pitiful legacy, as proven by your own poll of voting intentions.