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The Labour Party says it wants the UK to outlaw tenant bidding wars for rented homes, adopting a New Zealand policy, the Party’s Shadow Housing Minister, Matthew Pennycook, says.
Several Australian states have also apparently followed suit and Labour says the practice ‘creates a competition among tenants’ which only benefits the landlord.
Mr Pennycook says: “Those tenants who lose out on a property because of bidding wars are in a worse situation.
“And those who manage to get a property by that method are often stretched to the maximum of what they can pay.”
Labour now wants to amend the Renters (Reform) Bill that is working its way through Parliament.
And on 5 Live Breakfast, Nottingham landlord Mick Roberts was questioned by presenter Rachel Burden over the bidding practice, when she asked: “Do you get your tenants outbidding each other for your properties?”
Mr Roberts replied: “I do, and I’ve had that in the past, but I don’t get into it. But I can understand why other landlords are doing it.”
He was then asked why this situation is happening and Mr Roberts replied: “Well, you’ve got a shortage of landlords and since 2015 there’s been this anti-landlord rhetoric and the landlords are packing up like wildfire.
“And now you’ve got a supply and demand issue – and we never know what is coming next.”
He added: “For example, in Nottingham we’ve got a selective licensing charge of £900 and for some landlords, if they’re going to get to tenants bidding against each other, then they are going to take that bid.”
Along with the prospect of Labour banning tenants bidding for a rented property, Mr Roberts asked Ms Burden whether we should also ban bidding on the shopping site eBay and ban house sellers when bidding puts the price up.
Ms Burden asked: “Having somewhere to live is kind of a basic human right and need, isn’t it? And if people are being priced out of the market, this is really problematic.”
Mr Roberts replied: “I agree, but is it the landlord’s job to provide that basic human right?
“The landlord’s job is to provide a home – they are not a charity. It’s not the council providing that home, it’s not a housing association, it’s a human being. And he can take his money elsewhere.”
Ms Burden said that a landlord advertising a property at a certain price will know that the amount covers all the landlord’s costs and gives a buffer zone.
She then asked: “Then maybe there should be a system whereby you don’t allow people to come in and offer over that price.
“So, in other words, the landlord isn’t losing out. But you’re equally being fair to the renters.”
Mr Roberts said: “Well, you just hit the nail on the head. The landlord knows he’s covering his costs, but he isn’t because he doesn’t know what is coming next.
“Labour is proposing rent caps and if you look at Scotland, where they’ve done the rent cap, tenants have ended up much worse off from that. Now the new tenants can’t get a house.
“And when the landlord comes to rent it out again, he charges the most. And that’s what is happening in these bidding wars.”
Ms Burden said: “Obviously, we’ll have to wait and see all the parties’ different manifestos as to how they’re going to deal with this.
“But I guess that’s always been the case for any landlord. There’s always going to be some uncertainty for landlords.”
Mr Roberts replied: “There’s not as much certainty now and most of us are aware that a lot of Labour are anti-landlord, but you get rid of the landlord, and you’ve got no houses.
“You know, they’ve been calling for landlords to pack up and more great landlords are packing up when given the choice.
“There will be lots of landlords fighting for tenants – my tenants can’t leave me anyway, you know, I’m probably one of the rare ones.
“I want to sell a lot of my houses, but I can’t because they can’t get anywhere because of things like this bidding war.”
He continued: “I won’t leave them in that position because I’ve got morals and a conscience.
“But a lot of landlords, it’s something like 60% of landlords, don’t give rent increases, but because we don’t know when the next tax is coming from, I’ve got to get in as much as I can because I just don’t know.
“There’s no certainty anymore. I can’t even look after a family anymore.”
Mr Roberts added: “Lots of landlords are packing up and the more you talk about banning bidding wars and landlords not refusing pets, you’ll have no landlords left.”
The chief executive of the National Residential Landlords Association, Ben Beadle, told BBC’s Newsbeat that he accepts that bidding wars happen but says many problems in the private rental market are due to supply issues.
He said: “You can’t go around banning everything.
“What I would say is we need to look at what’s forcing people to make these decisions.”
A government spokesperson told the programme: “It is ultimately for landlords and tenants to agree the amount of rent that should be charged when a tenancy begins.
“Our Renters (Reform) Bill will deliver a fairer, more secure, and higher quality private rental sector for landlords and tenants.”
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Sign Up12:08 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by howdidigethere at 06/12/2023 - 11:11
Well said, everyone needs to understand this. But hard to reach the ears of the populace.
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Sign Up12:34 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
If Govt bans tenants bidding against each other, guess what will happen? The civil servants, with their heavy handed approach and hatred of landlords, will put in the law that a landlord who accepts an offer of even one penny above the advertised price will be fined £5000 for a first offence, £30,000 for a subsequent one.
The result? Instead of a landlord offering a house at say £1500 a month, the expected rent, he will hold a sort of Dutch Auction and say "Best offers up to £2000 please." This will cause a rise in rental levels generally.
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Sign Up12:42 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Another big landlord giving up on sale making a gross income of £150 k per annum, he's had enough well done you politians.
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Sign Up13:33 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by Caroline Ritchie at 06/12/2023 - 12:02
Know how that feels. I evicted a tenant for arrears, and the process took 15 months, and ended up costing over £20k.
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Sign Up13:56 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by NewYorkie at 06/12/2023 - 13:33
...and there lies a huge problem. Rents have to go up for good tenants to pay for the bad.
Eviction of bad tenants needs to be quicker and less costly
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Sign Up14:05 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by Ian Narbeth at 06/12/2023 - 12:34I think that is probably true because once again, just as happened in response to the SNP attempts at rent control in Scotland, if Sadik Khan banned what some people have chosen to describe as bidding wars some landlords would opt to put rents up.
But what is happening here is not that landlords are putting rents up. It is tenants who are putting rents up. The tenants who are able and willing to pay the higher rent are putting the rent up because they cannot get the accommodation they want for themselves, their families or their children anywhere else.
This is not a case of landlords putting the rent up for the tenant; the converse is true.
Mick Roberts
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Sign Up14:13 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by NewYorkie at 06/12/2023 - 12:00
Yes, like Corbyn when he called for Rent Holiday in March 2020 which hurt lots of landlords, but now tenants are paying the price for that.
I too think we won't be allowed to do what we want with our houses (we can't now) once Labour gets in.
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Sign Up14:14 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by Caroline Ritchie at 06/12/2023 - 12:02
Yes, I get many offering money they can't afford.
Ha ha same here, every morning, always a pause to see what rents haven't come in.
Mick Roberts
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Sign Up14:15 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by TheBiggerPicture at 06/12/2023 - 12:07
I've said same, we the solution, not the problem. Instead of telling us what to do, you'd help tenants much more if u came & asked Mick, what we doing wrong? Tenants can't get anywhere any more, u proof of that cause u can't sell yours as tenants can't move, what do we need to do, so tenants can have a choice again?
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Sign Up14:17 PM, 6th December 2023, About A year ago
Reply to the comment left by Ian Narbeth at 06/12/2023 - 12:34
Yes Ian, £30,000. Where do they get these bonkers figures from. Every time 100,000 Landlords hears that, we can bet several dozen sell.
Several Licensing schemes, £350 penalty for tenant not turning up to appointment that Landlord & Council Inspector is there outside house. So we fine the Landlord do we for tenant being unreliable? Utter bonkers.
We've said same, may as well advertise at daft price to start with.