ICO demand – is it a scam?

ICO demand – is it a scam?

9:52 AM, 10th December 2019, About 5 years ago 83

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Our Ltd company has just received a demand from ICO (Information Commissioner’s Office) claiming that we are not registered with them. That is true…. I have never heard of or from them before.

They say our customers, clients and tenants expect us to take our data protection obligations seriously like the many real estate companies that have paid their fee on time. If we have not paid a data protection fee to ICO we could be liable to pay fines of up to £4000.

In former times we did take personal details from our, mainly student, tenants….names, addresses ,telephone numbers, college details etc. Nowadays however we use agents and although, if we wanted, we could have copies of all tenancy agreements we normally leave all that with the agents.

As we do not hold these details I think the rules (if there are such rules) do not apply to us directly, but might apply to our agents. But something about this demand smells of a scam.

How come we have never heard of this before? Has anybody else received a similar demand?

Nick

Editors Note:

ICO blog 03/12/2019 >> Click here

We have launched a campaign to contact all registered companies in the UK reminding them of their legal responsibility to pay a data protection fee. The move marks the start of an extensive programme to make sure the Data Protection Fee is paid by all those who need to pay it.

Under the Data Protection Act 2018 organisations processing personal information are required to pay a data protection fee unless they are exempt. You can quickly and easily find out if your organisation needs to pay the fee by using our self-assessment checker, but if you hold personal information for business purposes on any electronic device, including using CCTV for crime prevention purposes, it is likely an annual fee payment is due.

You can avoid us needing to contact you by either:

  1. Visiting our website to pay your organisation’s Data Protection Fee online
  2. Completing this form to tell us why your organisation is exempt from paying the fee.

Since the new annual data protection fee was introduced in May 2018, over 600,000 organisations have registered to pay it. They have gone on to access the range of services and support we provide to help them to comply with the law and give their customers, clients and suppliers trust and confidence in the way they process personal information. At the same time, between 1 July and 30 September 2019, we issued 340 monetary penalties to organisations that have not paid the Data Protection Fee.

As well as naming most organisations we need to fine, we also publish the names of all fee-paying organisations. This helps them make it clear to their customers, clients and suppliers that they are aware of their legal obligations when processing personal information.

We know data protection legislation can be complicated and we are here to help. The reminders we are sending to organisations are to help make it easy to comply with the law as well as access a great deal of advice and support available from the ICO. This includes:

  • a Helpline and Live Chat service dedicated to supporting small businesses and organisations;
  • a series of self-assessment tools and products on our website;
  • advisory visits and support designed to help small businesses and organisations to comply with the law.

The cost of the data protection fee depends on a company’s size and turnover. There are three tiers of fee ranging from £40 and £2,900, but for most organisations it will be £40 or £60. The cost is reduced by £5 if you sign up by direct debit and you can find out how much you need to pay by taking a self-assessment.

For further help and advice, call the ICO’s small business helpline on 0303 123 1113 between 9am – 5pm, Monday to Friday (excluding Bank Holidays).


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Beaver

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10:15 AM, 12th December 2019, About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Luke P at 11/12/2019 - 13:04
Thanks. I'm very familiar with data protection legislation for reasons to do with what I do other than be a landlord.

Anybody concerned about this needs to read the exemptions on the ICO website.

Rob Crawford

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13:14 PM, 12th December 2019, About 5 years ago

Can't believe you run a business and have not heard of ICO (what else don't you know?). Maybe do a small business management course!

David Atkins

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8:20 AM, 14th December 2019, About 5 years ago

I also received the same letter to one of my companies which is an SPV to hold land. The letter assumes that unregistered companies are breaking the law. This SPV company has no customer, clients or tenants so why would the company be breaking the law. Is this another revenue raising ruse? Has the law changed making every company required to be a member regardless of the data if any held?

Mick Roberts

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11:58 AM, 14th December 2019, About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Luke P at 11/12/2019 - 13:04
Great words Luke, we paying for nothing. All adds up to more rents for tenants.

Some may so only £40, Some will say EPC only £40-£80.
Some may so Elec certificate only £200 & so on & so on.
Ooh & let's not forget the Nottingham Council Selective Licensing http://www.selectivelicensingtruth.co.uk ONLY a WHOPPING £890.
And there's tons more. Most that's not improving the house for the tenants. Just making it more expensive for them.

Paul Hawkins

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15:17 PM, 14th December 2019, About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David Atkins at 14/12/2019 - 08:20
Yes, to the original poster - I too received an ICO letter today. My initial thought by the look of the letter was that it was a scam letter - particularly as it email address did not end in .gov. However, to confirm the address and website was genuine I went to http://www.gov.uk and carried out a search for ICO - which confirmed that the ico.org.uk was in fact legitimate.

Michael Barnes

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19:17 PM, 14th December 2019, About 5 years ago

Companies are also likely to need to register if they have one or more employees, and possibly if they have more than one director or shareholder.

Simon Lever - Chartered Accountant helping clients get the best returns from their properties

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17:08 PM, 15th December 2019, About 5 years ago

If you run a business and hold data you have to register - simple.
This is just the ICO doing their job.
Just wait until non corporate landlords have to submit data quarterly to HMRC under MTD. Imagine the howls then.
However if you do not hold data you don't have to register, follow the link in the letter to tell them you do not have to.
If you use an agent and just receive net rents and they did the referencing for you then you probably don't have to register.
However if you are not sure then call them, they have given you the number!
This is all part of running a business, which landlords keep telling everyone else that is what they do.

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10:18 AM, 16th December 2019, About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by David Atkins at 14/12/2019 - 08:20I suspect that if you have your company registered with a SIC (standard industrial classification) at Companies House that would suggest your company might be involved in estate agency or something like it then the ICO is writing to all those companies to get them to deal with the personal data they hold and process in a professional manner.
Just because you got a letter it doesn't mean you have to register. It depends upon what you do, if anything with personal data.

Luke P

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10:32 AM, 17th December 2019, About 5 years ago

So I have now received a Penalty Notice of £400 under Section 155(1)(a) of the Data Protection Act 2018.

They have said my limited company IS a data controller. It is not. Not any longer.

Now I could tell them this, but I am not going to do their job for them when they employ the tactics they do in assuming.

I can only think this is because last year (and for a few years previous), I have been a licence holder.

What's their game, what powers do they have to issue a Penalty Notice (which I suspect is nothing more than a private parking fine) and what would you suggest I do?

David Atkins

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11:04 AM, 17th December 2019, About 5 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Luke P at 17/12/2019 - 10:32
So guilty until proven innocent!

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