How to Rent guide updated by MHCLG

Reply to the comment left by David Price at 14/12/2020 - 17:39
That's it Dave,

All us on here could dramatically alter tenants lives for the better. But there is no listening by Govt & Councils. Some of us have no competition cause other Landlords have had enough. We introduce common sense, let a Landlord get his/her house back easliy after no rent & damage, more Landlords will buy & rent out to the vulnerable, the vulnerable will have more choice & cheaper rents.
Landlords will maybe take drop in income, but easier life & the good Landlords won't be in a rush to sell off.

I did have a slightly off the wall thought about this thread. Remember the courts said we couldn't say "no dss" in our ads just recently? This was because it discriminates and makes people feel bad about their situation, thus creating a 2 tier society in terms of rental. Essentially the haves and the have nots. Then the eicr rule comes in. The haves need increased electrical protection (the PRS tenant) , when the have nots aren't worthy of getting the same levels of safety check (the council house & housing association dweller). And yet we hear nothing from that bastion of renters rights, Shelter. Why is that I wonder? Could it be because Shelter would jeopardise their £20m government funding if they went against government? I expect so.

Don't get me wrong, I still say all property needs an eicr. I'm just hoping that the PRS is just taking the first wave of what will eventually come into force for everyone. I do think the social housing sector should be shouting "safety discrimination" on this issue, but they won't. At lease it gives us another bullet to fire when Shelter next come knocking at the PRS because Gov want to whack us again.

We trade in a very odd market, one that Thatcher encouraged and successive politicians seem to want to reverse. Somehow we're still here though. The last ones standing will do ok, until the big ammo comes out! We just need to keep dodging the bullets.

I'm registered with RentSmartWales as I self-manage a property in Pembroke.

I've just had confirmation from them that the latest edition in Wales is the 2015 version. They will notify automatically of any updates but you need to check you requested updates when you registered.

Reply to the comment left by Adrian Jones at 18/12/2020 - 14:35'How to Rent' doesn't apply in Wales ???
RSW has a document A Home in the Private Sector, A guide for tenants in Wales " this isn't mandatory or carry any of the relevance that H2R does, i.e restrictions on Sec 21.

Wish the English would tells us when theres an update. I got caught out a while ago because they updated the website between close of business hours and it opening again next day. Turns out the advice is to print the document just before you need it. Anything else is just tough luck. No really, that is the official advice.

When I first read this article and saw that the third paragraph referred to the Rent to Rent Guide I assumed that this obvious error would be swiftly corrected, but I see it is still there.

Reply to the comment left by Chris @ Possession Friend at 12/12/2020 - 22:03
Agree. If it gets to the point where I have to evict, I ensure everything is up to date - including the catch out H2R booklet latest update before I progress. There is no way a tiny bloody technicality is going to stop an eviction if it has got to this point. I issue the current one at the time of the contract and even then tenants don't bother to read it. The REASON why LL's issue these things is not purely a butt covering exercise in the first instance it IS to make sure the tenants are aware of their rights. The problem is when this reason is blurred when it comes to the onerous admin associated with it, the 'value' of it goes out of the window and it is then treated like a poison chalice - no wonder then its regarded as a waste of time for everyone. WTH happened to common sense?

Reply to the comment left by Old Mrs Landlord at 23/12/2020 - 08:25
Fixed thank you

Reply to the comment left by RL at 23/12/2020 - 08:52
Hiya Chris.
Common sense left the building some time ago. His seat was taken by malicious intent. Regrettably us landlords have to pretend that common sense is still sat there because successive governments say he is. It's become a game that governments like to play. We know they hate us. They know we know they hate us, but because we pay them a shed load of tax, they can't say they hate us. We try to avoid paying that tax because they hate us. They know we try not to, so they find ways to give us more taxes. We know they are going to do that, but they have ways to make the public hate us because we try to not pay. Just watch again the old Yes Minister tv shows. Art becomes reality & hence landlords become the enemy of those that choose to believe what governments tell them. Who says the press aren't puppets? Politics has become a reality show. Over in the US they even had the presenter of a reality show at the helm for a few years. I used to have faith in politicians, I now realise my mistake. Especially as we now have a bad journalist as PM now. It's kinda the British versiion of the same thing. Their tv star is the same as our journalists. What's next? A naked attraction presenter in power? It's not impossible to imagine anymore. Although that annoying idiot that interviews the royals and celebs has a plummy enough accent to make it into the big chair.