Housing Disrepair Pre-Action Protocol – need to reply in 20 days!!

Housing Disrepair Pre-Action Protocol – need to reply in 20 days!!

13:47 PM, 23rd January 2014, About 11 years ago 74

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Can anybody help me please?

My previous tenant has appointed a solicitor who has written to me claiming for numerous things. One issue is “Repairs”. The solicitor states that the tenant complains of the following defects at my property since the beginning of the tenancy in June 2011. These include:-

(1) The screws behind the toilet kept on coming loose and the landlord up to date has not changed them;

Comment: I’ve visited the property on two occasions and tightened the screws. I saw this as a maintenance issue that the tenant should be dealing with. Where do I stand?

(2) The door to the master bedroom does not close and when it does it gets stuck;

Comment: The latch on the master bedroom door was working ok for 21 months of the 2 year tenancy. Once again, I viewed this an a maintenance issue for the tenant to deal with as they caused the disrepair. Where do I stand?

(3) Two light fittings in the upstairs bedroom do not work;

Comment: These did not work prior to the tenants moving in and these were not requested to be repaired before the tenants moved in. I tried to purchase new fittings but could not find suitable replacements at a reasonable price. Where do I stand?

(4) Dampness in the bedrooms upstairs;

Comment: As a landlord with 15 years experience and having tested the areas concerned for dampness with a meter. I’m of the opinion that this is condensation caused by the manner in which the tenants lived.eg. not ventilating the property adequately and drying clothes close to electric storage heaters. Where do I stand?

(5) Electric meters downstairs is not covered;

Comment: This is fabrication. The electric meter is in a metal-clad cabinet secured by a child proof latch about 1.25m above floor. However beside it is a consumer unit and it is this the tenant may be referring to. Where do I stand?

For your information, my tenants vacated my property having damaged many of the roller blinds in the conservatory and kitchen area. Carpets throughout the property are filthy and need to be cleaned or disposed of. They have also left a huge bedroom wardrobe that is falling to pieces and needs to be dismantled and disposed of. The tenants have left large items of kids toys and carpeting in the garden.

Their solicitor expects me to compensate their clients. Is there anybody out there who can offer advice on how I should proceed. I understand I should reply within a 20 day period.

I would appreciate any assistance and advice available.

Many thanks

Garypreaction


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Yvette Newbury

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20:45 PM, 23rd January 2014, About 11 years ago

I have read all the excellent responses and then returned to read the original entry - I cannot believe that the tenants would have legal aid for these minor repairs, particularly if they have already vacated the property. I'm uncertain as to events surrounding their departure, but why would they be claiming compensation now, after they have left? It all seems very strange and for such minor issues too! I agree ideally these would have been repaired as the tenancy progressed, by the tenant preferably or by the landlord if they were incapable but even so, I cannot see this claim being successful when they no longer live in the property.

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21:26 PM, 23rd January 2014, About 11 years ago

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22:05 PM, 23rd January 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Peter " at "23/01/2014 - 14:43":

Humitstat fans - snap! We fitted these in our kitchens and bathrooms this year too as our tenants kept turning the normal type off causing black mould to form on the ceiling. The new fans seem to be performing well so far.

Romain Garcin

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22:25 PM, 23rd January 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Industry Observer " at "23/01/2014 - 18:05":

Re. ADR and court, I believe that this is indeed part of the Civil Procedure Rules that claimant is expected to propose ADR if it is available or risk having his claim rejected.

Jeremy Smith

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0:32 AM, 24th January 2014, About 11 years ago

Quote from Chris:
"As a rule of thumb I try to action tenants demands, justified or not, as much as I can. If you can build a relationship of trust and professionality during the tenancy they tend to stay longer and treat the place with more respect. They are the reason I don’t have to go to work every day… I need them more than they need me.
Theres almost nothing I won’t do to make them happy!"

I concur completely, as all good professional landlords would, I hope!.

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7:16 AM, 24th January 2014, About 11 years ago

My tenants tried something like this recently but they called the council round to show them the house, This house has an outhouse that I thought for sure the council would force me to shut down however this back fired on the tenant in a big way & apart from a spindle on the stairs that they had broke there was nothing that needed doing, the council are in many cases not the brightest of people & simply follow a mantra which led to a lot of contradictions on their part, however these are very petty problems & they know you cant simply follow tenants around all day repairing things that they have broken, you also have to have been informed of these problems by the tenant, so did she report them ie can she prove she told you?? but I would urge you to contact your local MP & let him take up the case, she is trying to pull a fast 1 & she has NO grounds if all you have said is true, so might be worth you contacting council & getting them to check it out but if it goes further then worth contacting your MP!!!! I have had much the same problem as you over last few wks & I have taken on the council & now my MP is taking up the case as we the landlord NEED to gain some of our rights back
http://www.writetothem.com click on link & put in postcode send email easy as pie but please do not lose any more sleep over it as it really is not worth it especially if you know the place is in good living order & by that I mean would YOU live there???

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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7:37 AM, 24th January 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Jeremy Smith" at "24/01/2014 - 00:32":

I also totally agree.

A good inventory at check in and check out, a bit of TLC to tenants and timely maintenance usually results in longer tenancies, less voids and less cost and hassle in the long term.

Sometimes just a chat over a cup of tea with tenants can clear up misunderstandings. I've had tenants call me about light bulbs, running out of loo roll, smelly bathroom carpets which were fine at check-in, blocked toilets and sinks, weeds in the yard, condensation on windows etc., none of which are my responsibility. A meeting over a cuppa to take a look and then suggesting we look through the tenancy together to see whose responsibility it is usually solves the problem very quickly. If I do spot any maintenance issues whilst I am there then I get them dealt with ASAP. I often show a bit of goodwill and help with issues I'm not responsible for too. I view this as an investment into a professional relationship and when similar issues come up again I find tenants don't bother me with them because they know they are their responsibility. An opportunity to read a tenancy agreement with a tenant is always a good investment in time because you can be sure that very few will ever read it otherwise. Most just sign it because that's what they need to do to get the keys to their new home.

One of my objective is for my tenants to say "well my landlord is brilliant" whenever the subject of bad landlords comes up on the news or in conversations. There is so much negativity about landlords generally that my tenants are afraid to go to another landlord because they are worried they will never find one as good as me. That's a sad indictment of the perception of landlords generally but does my business no harm whatsoever.
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8:58 AM, 24th January 2014, About 11 years ago

@ Romain

Yes thanks for that ADR and CPR I think you are right. If claimant (tenant) wants to go to dispute then Landlord can say he prefers Court.

On inventories Mark is absolutely right without a real quality one you are dead in the water at ADR (especially) or in Court.

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9:03 AM, 24th January 2014, About 11 years ago

If the tenant is being difficult and presents little real evidence of disrepair, especially during the tenancy itself, i would be tempted to tell their solicitor that you do not plan to use ADR, and that any issues will be decided by a court. (The Act allows for either side to refuse resolution by the Deposit Scheme). Any legal firm representing the tenant will then realise that they will almost certainly not get paid their fees and will advise their client to drop the claim. This "i am taking you to court business" is a game of chess......

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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9:15 AM, 24th January 2014, About 11 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "All BankersAreBarstewards Smith" at "24/01/2014 - 09:03":

In either situation (ADR or Small Claims Court) it would be highly unusual for legal costs to be awarded.
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