General Election 8th June – Who on earth do landlords vote for?

General Election 8th June – Who on earth do landlords vote for?

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For example, you may well despise what the Conservative Government has done and you may well mistrust them but will any other party be better?

If landlords vote for minor parties might this hand a win to Labour?

Do you think a coalition Government is likely, and if so between which parties?

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Gary Dully

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21:54 PM, 9th June 2017, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "terry sullivan" at "09/06/2017 - 09:12":

May has a chance to turn this around.

Corbyn was in a similar position 12 months ago.

She needs to get in a room with her MP's and get a vote of confidence and then a battle plan of attacking the media, I would suggest the BBC for bias.

Just keep it up and cause a diversion, Cameron did it all the time.
He would throw a dead sheep on the table and watch the media go off at a tangent for a week.

If Labour and Liberal undemocrats wants her to resign, she should do the exact opposite and just say.

Piss off, we won, we hammered the SNP in Scotland as well and we have more MPs than Labour.
You voted for Brexit and your going to get it, BIG STYLE!

The UDP want Brexit and no border, so that's now our negotiating position.
Or we all walk away........and we still will have no borders in N.Ireland.
Eire will not back borders either, so the other 27 will be divided from day 1.
That's our starting point
Next is EU nationals, they can stay, the Brits should be allowed to as well.

Tricia Collick

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8:19 AM, 10th June 2017, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Gary Dully" at "09/06/2017 - 21:54":

There we are, all this 'vote for someone else' has created chaos with the EU who are claiming she lost (I'm listening to the news in France). Has that helped the country ?

People on this blog have voted against the Tories for a personal PRS view despite that the other parties would still hit us, perhaps even harder !

So Corbyn is claiming he won despite the facts, we could never trust him.

Young people came out to vote, a little too late and without the experience of living under the hard left.
How do they think he was going to pay for his stupid policies, free degrees, nationalisation, etc
By raising THEIR taxes !

I still have high blood pressure....

Dr Rosalind Beck

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8:29 AM, 10th June 2017, About 8 years ago

I think that those of us who have Labour MPs or who know them should write to them to find out what the hell is going on. I am pally with an ex-member of the Shadow Cabinet and have written to him as follows:

Hi.....
Firstly, I would like to congratulate you on your brilliant result.

Secondly I would like to give you an honest personal view of how I see things. Do you understand what Jeremy Corbyn is doing, preparing an 'alternative Queen's Speech?' He seems to think him saying 'black is white' or 'Labour has won' enough times will make it true. He said 'it's clear who has won' (meaning Labour) and Shami Chakrabarti said on Question Time last night that 'Labour has won.'

I am really hoping that the 80% of Labour MPs who are opposed to him speak up once more and challenge this rhetoric and weird representation of a lost election as a victory (since when does an increased number of votes or seats mean you have won? It just means you've lost by less of a margin). The worry that some Labour MPs had that he would interpret a defeat in this way has come true.

I know that many of you kept quiet for the election campaign with the aim of keeping the Labour Party intact, but my view is that now is the time to 'break ranks' once more, As it seems constitutionally impossible for you to oust Corbyn, I believe you have to set up a new party. If for no other reason, this is needed in order to let the democratically-elected Conservative Government get on with the Brexit negotiations, without having to constantly be using their energy fending off Labour assaults from the back and sabotaging the country's interests. Calling for this would be an honourable approach, which supports the democratic process. At the same time you can then rebuild the moderate and sensible Labour party that is needed. I hope that enough Labour MPs help the real Queen's Speech to get through as it serves no-one if it doesn't (Jeremy Corbyn can't complain - he's rebelled against his party all his life).

Anyway, I apologise if I have misinterpreted what is going on in the Labour Party and your own role in this - I only got re-engaged with politics when the Tories attacked me with their mad fiscal policies - but I felt the need to share my view with someone whom I know could do something about this.

My hope is that some Labour MPs will speak up once more and tell Corbyn to forget the 'alternative Queen's Speech,' and instead begin the process of setting up an 'alternative Labour Party.' He can then keep a tiny, diminished, extreme left carcass of it, together with his cronies and the new Labour Party would be the real Labour Party, re-born once more!

Thanks and all the best.

Gary Dully

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14:42 PM, 10th June 2017, About 8 years ago

Pass this on Ros...

Theresa May has just sacked her closest advisers because she has been threatened with a leadership contest next Monday.

That's the wrong reason, they should be sacked because of the crappy campaign and policy ideas.

And who would be the contenders?
1. Boris
2. David Davis
3. Amber Rudd
4. ?

She must be mad, she needs to stamp her authority, not capitulate to anybody.

Let's ask the membership, like Jeremy Corbyn did.

And she has some other unloyal bint called Katie Perrier mouthing off to the press.

If I employed her at the moment, I would rip her apart for showing total indiscretion to her previous employer and ask her to sign a non disclosure agreement or offer her resignation.

What chance has Theresa May got up against the EU?

None, until she spills some blood on the carpet!

Anne Nixon

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15:57 PM, 10th June 2017, About 8 years ago

What an unholy mess! Feels like we're heading for whitewater rapids sitting on a tea-tray with no paddle!!

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16:28 PM, 10th June 2017, About 8 years ago

Labour won Kensington first time ever London has been hit hardest with SDLT and s24 I reckon the landlord / property vote has had an affect ???

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23:08 PM, 10th June 2017, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "NW Landlord" at "10/06/2017 - 16:28":

Well it will be interesting as the rents start to rocket each year won't it?

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9:55 AM, 12th June 2017, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "NW Landlord" at "10/06/2017 - 16:28":

"I reckon the landlord / property vote has had an effect"

You bet it has had! I am registered to vote in Kensington and could easily have voted but did not. I shall be writing to the unfortunate Victoria Borwick who lost her Kensington seat, cc'ing David Gauke (who astonishingly has just been promoted by Theresa May!), George Osborne and a few of the newspapers to explain that sticking the knife that is section 24 into the backs of Tories like me has cost her her seat and cost the Conservatives in the country. I doubt they will listen and the prospects of our legislators reversing section 24 whilst there is a left-leaning Parliament have probably diminished. Section 24 was not the only reason her 10,000 vote majority collapsed but it was undoubtedly the final straw for a few dozen landlords.

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10:16 AM, 12th June 2017, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ian Narbeth" at "12/06/2017 - 09:55":

GO may have given us a little opportunity

He’s been criticising T. May in the Evening Standard throughout the campaign, but on Sunday on national TV he stuck the knife in saying “she’s a dead woman walking”. I feel sure GO is not TM’s favourite person right now and might even relish the idea of rubbishing one of his policies i.e. s.24 (it would have to be replaced with something else because of the hole it would create in the budget).

This would have to be forwarded through those of us who have a Tory MP.

“Dear xxxxxxxx,

Congratulations for your victory in last week’s elections.

Now that Mrs May has her own mandate now is a good time to right some of the wrongs from the previous Government. Could you propose to Mrs May the scrapping of George Osborne’s s.24 “Restriction on Mortgage Interest Relief” on private Landlords. I think by now you are aware of the unfairness of this tax and how every single argument put forward by George Osborne has been torn to shreds by housing experts and independent economic experts (which might give Mrs May some relish).

Of course, this would create a hole in the budget assuming Treasury predictions which wouldn’t be helpful. I fellow Landlord put forward some time ago (possibly even to P. Hammond) a 2% tax applicable to all rented accommodation (about £16 per month of the average rent) which probably be absorbed by most Landlords. There might have to be some adjustment to Housing Benefit to compensate. This will, it is calculated, bring in more revenue to the Treasury than s.24 as it doesn’t discriminate between different types of Landlords (s.24 only applies to encumbered private Landlords) and will avoid the likely crisis in the PRS that s.24 will precipitate.”

The Government could "spin" this as:
“This Government is scrapping the ill-conceived and widely criticised George Osborne Tenant Tax which is discriminatory, unjust, unfair, does nothing to help First Time Buyer’s, that will force many Landlords to have to sell up and evict Tenants. So exacerbating the housing crisis for Tenants and those on Housing Benefits, and discourage investment in housing in the private sector. Instead, this Government will place a direct tax on the Landlords revenues including incorporated Landlords so plugging this loop-hole that George Osborne created.”

Lindsey

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10:23 AM, 12th June 2017, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Barry Fitzpatrick" at "12/06/2017 - 10:16":

I approve. And I happen to be a Party member (albeit as a Thatcherite one who has distanced myself totally from it during its elitist rampage) and to have a Conservative MP who is already well aware of our grievances with S24 (and has said she would bring up in the HoC my point that it's ingenuous to think small landlords can all just sell up, given that not everywhere has experienced this supposed housing bubble, the market locally to me is stagnant, and in Scotland, where my houses are, it's dead). She's also got a majority of just under 700.

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