Fire doors and who certifies competent installers?

Fire doors and who certifies competent installers?

0:01 AM, 18th October 2024, About 13 hours ago 2

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Hi, after 50 years in the rental business, I’ve recently become a landlord of a shared flat classified as an HMO, though not a “true” HMO. I’ve been asked to provide both an FD30 fire door certificate and proof of a “competent installer.”

The challenge I’m facing is finding an installer who can self-certify their own competence. From my understanding, BM Trada is the only organisation that can certify the installation. Is this correct? However, I’m having trouble locating anyone willing to certify a single door in a residential property, as opposed to commercial projects.

I’m struggling with what to do? Can anyone from the Property118 community please advise.

Thank you,

Suresh


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Mike

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13:33 PM, 18th October 2024, Less than a minute ago

Who needs this certificate? Is it the council if so which one, and what if you are no longer able to contact the original installer? Most FD30 doors have a label on them at the top, this should still be there and that is your proof that the door meets the FD30 standard, as for installer you just have to say who you used and you could ask him to confirm that he installed it as per requirements of a fire door installation with all gaps on sides and top between 2-3mm with smoke and intumescent strip. take pictures of it and send it off.
They can't hang you for that.
My HMO was inspected by Newham and they just looked at the doors, door handles, self closing mechanism, fur and intumescent strip and did not even measure any gaps and were satisfied that all was well.

I think you need to write them back and attach pictures of the label and explain that the installer had not given you a certificate of competence, but you engaged him in good faith that he knew what he was going to undertake., I never questioned my installer if he was competence as all I asked him was if he is able to hang Fire Doors as they require strict standards and even gaps with intumescent strips, he replied yes I have hung hundreds of them, that was good enough for me.

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14:07 PM, 18th October 2024, Less than a minute ago

I read something about this recently. What a cheek! As long as the doors are properly fitted, I can't see that any council can demand a certificate is provided. I'm an accountant but despite this, I can use a pencil, tape measure, router, saw, hammer, chisels, screwdriver and electric planer. With these items, I managed to fit 2 fire doors to a satisfactory standard and no concerns were raised by council staff. Whether the end result meets the necessary standard is what's important, not some bureaucrat ticking a box!

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