Financial Help needed to fight against Council?

Financial Help needed to fight against Council?

8:52 AM, 10th February 2023, About 2 years ago 8

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In a case that could have implications for landlords across the country, Leicester City Council is appealing against a First-tier Tribunal decision that substantially reduced a civil financial penalty they had imposed for an HMO licensing offence.

The case concerns a small two-storey HMO on the outskirts of Leicester which was let to four individual tenants, each on a separate AST. It was maintained in good condition and well-managed.

There was a small fifth room measuring just 4.7m2 which the landlord is adamant she had never let out as it was too small. One tenant said a fifth person lived in that room, whilst another tenant said they used the room for storage, but allowed a homeless friend to sleep in their for a few weeks without telling the landlord. The council found no one living in the room when they visited and never traced the fifth person.

Believing that five people had occupied the property, the council imposed a hefty civil financial penalty of £29,817. A penalty towards the very top end of the scale which is reserved for the most serious offenders.

The landlord successfully appealed against the penalty and was represented by London Property Licensing. Following a video hearing, the First-tier Tribunal reduced the penalty to £3,900. The council sought permission to appeal the decision, which was refused. The council then petitioned the Upper Tribunal direct and their request to appeal was granted.

The grounds of appeal raise important issues that could impact on future civil financial penalties as the outcome will become case law. For example:

Is it reasonable for council policy to determine every HMO licensing offence is automatically of very high seriousness and warrants a much higher penalty regardless of the circumstances?

Can the council assume the offence had been ongoing for a longer period of time whilst a council officer acknowledged it was just their belief?

Can the council add their costs incurred in imposing a civil financial penalty to further increase the level of civil penalty imposed? This is not referred to in the statutory guidance and the whole amount is paid to the council anyway. Effectively, it means the council is paid twice.

The case raises important issues about the criminal standard of proof and how the statutory civil penalty guidance should be properly applied when calculating any penalty imposed.

The case will be heard on Tuesday 2 May 2023 at the Royal Courts of Justice in London. Whilst grounds for objection have already been submitted, Counsel representation for the hearing and preparation of skeleton arguments is estimated to cost up to £8,000. With the landlord struggling to afford these high costs and the case having much wider implications, any crowdfunded or similar support would help to ensure Counsel can be appointed to provide representation and fully argue the grounds of appeal before the Upper Tribunal.

First-tier Tribunal reference: BIR/00FN/HNA/2022/0019.

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Neil Patterson

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8:56 AM, 10th February 2023, About 2 years ago

The Landlord's Counsel need the court costs ruling and find the total quantum of risk required to be covered and then consider crowd funding

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12:10 PM, 10th February 2023, About 2 years ago

And they wonder why we are leaving in droves........Good grief!

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13:29 PM, 10th February 2023, About 2 years ago

I don’t even understand why there is a penalty at all when there is no proof the landlord had a 5th person living in the house. On what basis was the penalty? Peacekeepers.org.uk have some interesting info on their site concerning council tax where they have been successful in overturning bills where the court has been rubber stamping council claims. The councils ability to fine landlords has not been passed in law so that I can see if some clever lawyer could use the same principles that peacekeepers used, they may be able to squash it altogether.

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14:11 PM, 10th February 2023, About 2 years ago

Reply to the comment left by Neil Patterson at 10/02/2023 - 08:56
Thanks Neil.
The costs for Counsel to present this matter is approximately £8000.
I could really use some advice on starting crowd funding as I believe this case needs defending.
The Barrister Archie Maddan of Pump court Chambers is representing this matter.

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14:11 PM, 10th February 2023, About 2 years ago

Thanks Neil.
The costs for Counsel to present this matter is approximately £8000.
I could really use some advice on starting crowd funding as I believe this case needs defending.
The Barrister Archie Maddan of Pump court Chambers is representing this matter.

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16:11 PM, 10th February 2023, About 2 years ago

Is the Landlord a member of a Landlords Association?
Many years ago, I was a member of the SPLA (Southern Private Landlord Association), I think subsumed into NRLA. They had a fund for fighting legal cases that would have widespread impact for LLs. Perhaps they can help or point you in the right direction?

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17:15 PM, 10th February 2023, About 2 years ago

Councils still do not understand that landlords perform a critical social service and in doing so contribute enormously towards their local economy. They should be working with landlords and not against them!
As a seasoned HMO landlord I'm fed up with inspectors demanding unnecessary and very expensive fire and safety work after having happily taken my money and issued me a Licence because I meet all their Licence demands. Ridiculous! I am selling up and the house is on the market.
If our friend crowdfunds I will certainly contribute as I strongly believe that this idiotic bureocratic nonsense must stop.
What it is behind it all of course, is covering their backs following the Grenfell disaster. Lilly livered admin people who create nothing must be challenged when they try on bully tactics because they think that they have the power. God save us from these idiots.

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11:47 AM, 11th February 2023, About 2 years ago

Exactly which HMO rule did the Landlord bend/break ? .
This is utter looney tunes .
This council must not be allowed to win this case .

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