Does a rent-free arrangement make her a tenant?

Does a rent-free arrangement make her a tenant?

0:02 AM, 22nd January 2025, About A week ago 27

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When my father died, his Will specified that I was to purchase a property for his long term live in carer/lady friend to live in, rent free for the rest of her life. Her new home was purchased from the proceeds of dads estate.

An agreement was drawn up by solicitors which states that the property belongs to me, and will return to me upon her death. The agreement also states that she is responsible for all maintenance, insurance and usual bills. There are other safeguards too which I have no intention of breaking.

This was over 4 years ago and she still lives there rent free. My question is: What are my requirements and legal obligations for this property, if any?

We don’t have a tenancy agreement in the usual sense. Just the legal agreement which we are both happy with. I do wonder if should treat it as if it were a straight forward paying tenant? I.e. Gas safety checks and electrical tests or not?

Does the Housing Act even apply this agreement? There have been no problems with this arrangement so far. I see no reason for there to be in future between us. I am just keen to make sure that I stay legal.

This can’t be the only one with this kind of arrangement out there? Information on the legal stuff is impossible to find online.

The lady is in her 90’s at present. I am also aware that this property forms part of my estate should I pass away before her. Any information, suggestions or pointers will be gratefully received.

Thanks,

Paul


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Simon F

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1:15 AM, 22nd January 2025, About 7 days ago

It will matter what the form of legal agreement is, and specific wording in that. I expect that is a Deed of Trust, rather than anything resembling either a lease or tenancy agreement. If a DoT without problematic wording, I don't see how you would have any liability before the property returns to your possession, but the unusual nature could easily make authorities suspicious that there is something underhand going on if they ever get involved.

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5:09 AM, 22nd January 2025, About 7 days ago

You dont say what type of agreement was signed and whether it includes a conveyance if land, (ie some kind of lease). If not, then as the occupant is paying the cost of maintenance on the property, which you would otherwise have to pay for, then its possible, (maybe likely) that a judge would regard this as "monies worth" and rule that she has a tenancy, possibly an AST. This would mean that you would have all the obligations that go with the tenancy, including GSC, EICR, How to Rent, smoke and CO alarms and even s11 repairing obligations if the tenant failed to live up to the agreement she signed.

I'm surprised your solicitor didn't point out this possibility, but I would suggest you contact a specialist landlord and tenant solicitor to find out the full extent of any obligations you may have.

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9:48 AM, 22nd January 2025, About 7 days ago

Reply to DPT.
The document is titled Deed of variation settlement agreement. (There were a few extra safeguards included ) that was written up by a "Specialist family law solicitor". Had my father NOT provided for his friend, she would have had a claim under the inheritance (provision for family and dependants ) act 1975 as she was financially dependant on dad. I am told that this arrangement is very common these days?. Basically, the act was bought in to stop people like dads friend being turfed out by the family making them a burden on the benefits system. Therefore, this arrangement could not be considered unlawful nor a tax dodge. I am not questioning the validity of our agreement. It works just fine. Just asking if this agreement is subject to the housing act or not?

Paul

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10:15 AM, 22nd January 2025, About 7 days ago

For context. My fathers original will was written up by a "Specialist solicitor" that included his wishes to house his friend. However, the rest of the will turned out to be very vague and lacking much detail. The original solicitor had left the firm as did 6 other solicitors who I was passed onto until the estate was finalised. The "specialist solicitor " who wrote up the final agreement did not include any provision should I die before my fathers friend making me seek advise from another "Specialist solicitor" to rectify that. I have very little trust or faith in "Specialist solicitors"

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10:27 AM, 22nd January 2025, About 7 days ago

Provision for family and dependents act has amendments from October 2014 which may apply to your situation.
Read up on internet

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10:50 AM, 22nd January 2025, About 7 days ago

Reply to Kizzy.
Although the will DID include provision for his friend. The final agreement was written up to comply with the inheritance act as if it had not. I am not worried about the agreement. She can live there rent free for life. That is what my father wanted and I have no intention of breaking my word to dad by making her homeless. I think I will just get a gas safe check and electrical test done for my own piece of mind.

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11:37 AM, 22nd January 2025, About 7 days ago

Reply to the comment left by Paul at 22/01/2025 - 10:50
Without wishing to put you off “doing the right thing“ and getting peace of mind, I wonder whether getting an EICR and a gas safety check could imply that you have assumed a landlord and tenant relationship, which could count against you and give you even more liabilities.

I would urge you to get proper advice before you do those checks.

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12:53 PM, 22nd January 2025, About 6 days ago

Its your property at the end of day you need to protect it, with an EICR, Gas safety at least and any other repairs to keep its value, for when you eventually sell it. The occupier i would not be so concerned about as rent free, no strings attached, if passes away or ends up in a care home, is still not your problem !

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13:03 PM, 22nd January 2025, About 6 days ago

Reply to the comment left by Paul at 22/01/2025 - 10:50
Get her to arrange the safety checks and you can always offer to pay.

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14:04 PM, 22nd January 2025, About 6 days ago

What would bother me would be if the occupier goes into care home the council might try to place a charge on the title and you will have to prove the arrangements to the council which they might not easily accept.
There are elephant traps all over this imo.

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