Do I have to provide a cooker and hob?

Reply to the comment left by R S at 14/04/2022 - 13:36thanks for your post. I was under that impression too so clearly a cooker does NOT have to be fitted as not required under the TLA nor the FfHH acts.

Reply to the comment left by DSR at 14/04/2022 - 13:17
Yes this is an interesting debate. I am now more comfortable that my tenant who did not have a cooker provided has not been illegally deprived. I initially thought it not required as I was not aware of the provision in the Act. It does seem as though it is only the connection is required.

I only really looked into it because of the rather rude first comment as I was hoping to counter it which turned out more difficult than I thought.

This raises a question that if a tenant brings their own gas cooker and it is the only gas appliance in the property, who is responsible for the gas safety certificate?

Reply to the comment left by Jack Craven at 14/04/2022 - 16:51interesting point - on the face of it the tenant would be responsible for a gas cert as his is the appliance.
Got to ask the question though - if there is no gas C/H boiler etc then why not cap the gas off and just install an elec cooker plug point instead?

When I have an annual gas cert done I have the boiler checked - the cooker is the tenants own so I don't get this specifically checked and it is not listed on the gas cert (although our contractor does a visual check and notes this.

Correct me if I am wrong but from what I have heard Councils and Social Housing Companies don't have to adhere to the same laws as us private landlords.
I wouldn't want a tenant to install their own cooker, perhaps using a dodgy unqualified 'mate' or cowboy installer. Of course they would be liable for damage but a fire or explosion would affect the whole building.
Would my gas engineer have to sign off a hob when they do the annual boiler check if it wasn't mine nor installed by myself?
I would have more peace of mind installing my own appliances.

The FFHH Act applies to both private and social landlords (Councils/Housing Associations, etc.). The latter do not routinely supply white goods as part of a let, otherwise they'll then be responsible for them, which is a liability they don't want/can't afford.

What they do provide are gas and/or electric connections for a cooker to be installed (by a competent person.), space and connection points for a fridge and washing machine.

Reply to the comment left by at 14/04/2022 - 19:17
The owner of the appliance is responsible for its safety; thus social landlords only supply these rarely (specialist accommodation, in the main). Most social housing tenants supply their own white goods and are responsible for their upkeep.

The bill to supply, maintain and replace these would easily run into £millions for the larger organisations.

Reply to the comment left by at 14/04/2022 - 19:17
I offer to INSTALL only a cooker for a tenant. I never provide one. Our gas contractor carries out annual gas checks and will make a note that a visual inspection is undertaken but not a check. It is the tenants appliance the tenant has to carry out all checks to it.

Reply to the comment left by DSR at 14/04/2022 - 20:13
I think this is wise. I installed a replacement oven for my current tenants as my property currently had one but the tenants couldn't work the timer. I went for the more expensive oven thinking it would last longer; after just over two years they had almost destroyed the new one. It looked as though they'd had an oven fire. Being about a month after the 2 year warranty had expired the tenants asked for a new oven but I was able to get the old one fixed by having a new sensor installed.