Cash rich and nowhere to live

Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 10/07/2019 - 09:38What may happen is that wages in the horticultural sector go up and this will encourage young people to "toughen up" and do the work. This country used to have a really tough working class, which was why our armies were so formidable. The Army is still world class which shows that people, especially young men, can be trained up.
People have gone soft. Too little games at school, too much molly-coddling. We should also use David Price's stick and cut off benefits for those who can work but won't. This could be a good thing all round for the nation. Food prices may go up a bit and farmers will invest in technology to do some of the menial jobs. The alternative is to carry on as at present with a growing, disillusioned, useless underclass who will vote for morons like Corbyn because he promises them free stuff and an easy life.

use prisoners--they get some pay which will help them on release and also gives some work contacts

Reply to the comment left by Ian Narbeth at 10/07/2019 - 10:20
Ian have you forgotten "Work" is a four letter word! I have some 80 single male tenants most of whom could work but have chosen not to, its easier to claim benefits and go shoplifting and or begging.

I find peoples’ views on EU labour in the U.K. interesting. The issue many have is with Eastern European labour and our borders have only been open to this since 1st January 2014. So how did daffodils in Cornwall or vegetables in Norwich get picked prior to 2014 ? Not many have an issue with non Eastern European workers coming here from say France or Italy. That’s because they would be coming from similarly wealthy countries and hence their numbers are much smaller. After all how many Germans do you see washing cars in the UK ?

Reply to the comment left by James Barnes at 10/07/2019 - 09:28Automation is coming on leaps and bounds. We need to get people on benefits working for such a privilege. I suspect this would lead to the welfare bill declining though a combination of "I dont want to do that/ and then not be able to do their second "secret" job. Lower welfare bill hopefully equals lower taxes. Lets go further, we have a prison population who are mainly sitting idle surely they can be put to some productive use at the very least to pay for their upkeep. Lower welfare bill/ near self funding or dare I say it profitable prisons equals lower taxes for the working.

Reply to the comment left by MA at 13/07/2019 - 08:30
It should be more arduous to claim benefit than to work. If long term benefit claimants were forced to present themselves at the job centre at 8 am every day except Sunday and be given work so that they go home physically tired at 6 pm, sorting pebbles on the beach if there is nothing else to do, then I believe many would speedily find a job. After six days they would be given their Benefit money, miss a day without a medical certificate and no money for the week, arrive late and no money for the day.

Such a regime would also go a long way to controlling antisocial behaviour for the individuals concerned would be too tired to do anything but sleep.

I was shocked to hear that a Romanian couple who are tenants of mine - who rent a room in a house in Lincoln, and who are now in arrears - are now receiving Universal Credit payments, because they "were not prepared to work for the minimum wage" there (of £8.30 I think) per hour, and with the proceeds have gone abroad on holiday for 3 weeks!

Reply to the comment left by David Price at 13/07/2019 - 09:59
Yes, David,
Better to be active and do something than not.
I had a period of unemployment during the early 1990's when my company moved away and would present myself at the Job Centre to sign-on at fortnightly intervals dressed in my suit, heels, cv etc ready to attend interviews that day, at short notice. The number of claimants, I saw, I would guess, at least 99.5%, wore splattered overalls or dressed down, looked unwashed before dispersing into the pubs in the area or back to their black market jobs. I always seemed to stand alone perusing the Job Vacancy notice board.
Some months later, I attended a work placement at a charity for 3 months gaining electronic computer 'word perfect' typewriter skills and helped with their administration.
Interestingly, during that time many in my circle could not understand why I would do this and receive an extra £10.00 per week job seekers allowance.
I did this to advance my employment options and guard myself against the rut of longterm joblessness and the despondency that goes with it.
I agree with many on this forum that unemployed should give back.
Close by to where I live a barge is moored and it is used for 'community' purposes, ie those out on licence or asylum seekers etc are helped back into the community to be good citizens. On each of the many occasions I witnessed them, these groups of men were standing around smoking or using their mobile phones but not actually doing anything. All the while those in charge, presumably being paid out of tax payers money pots allowing it and sort of socialising. Basically, a 'tickbox of accummulating points' to show that there was an active presenting and participation!
No doubt the trade unions would be against their weeding pavements etc as it would take jobs away from the 'jobsworths'.

Reply to the comment left by David Price at 13/07/2019 - 09:59
section 21 asap?

Reply to the comment left by terry sullivan at 10/07/2019 - 08:42
But they won't. Did you not see the programme where they put UK workers up against Easter Europeans picking veg? The EE were making £200 a day and the Brits weren't picking enough to cover the minimum wage the farmer had to pay them.