Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

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Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Budget proposals to “restrict finance cost relief to individual landlords”Summer Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Stewart

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21:26 PM, 19th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "mark andrews" at "19/06/2016 - 20:54":

Really Mark. How does one just 'increase the rents'....?

Mark Shine

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21:37 PM, 19th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "mark andrews" at "19/06/2016 - 20:54":

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@Mark Andrews:

Re your increase the rents ‘innit’ comment that you make here and is continually made by all on your own devious & manipulative forum - I suspect, in time, you will eventually realize that the increase the rents ‘innit’ concept aka the exertion of upward pressure on rental values was very much part of the rational for George’s bosses (and I don’t mean Dave BTW) for conjuring up C24 in last summer’s budget in the first place.

I do agree with you and your chums on a couple of points however:

1. House prices in popular parts of the country are clearly ridiculous and overdue a market correction.
2. Increasing supply of new build should be encouraged.

Bill Morgan

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22:17 PM, 19th June 2016, About 8 years ago

The capital repayment amount per month could be spread over a very long period so that the amount paid back is more manageable and would be less likely to result in cashflow issues.For example the amount paid back could be calculated over say 40 years even if many landlords would fail to live that long.By the time the loan has to be paid back there would be plenty of equity in the property and it could be sold.The point I'm making is that some kind of repayment model could be introduced if the Government really wants to slow down the BTL market.

Restricting mortgage interest relief is going to far.It wouldnt surprise me if the JR succeeds.

Big Blue

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22:18 PM, 19th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "mark andrews" at "19/06/2016 - 11:33":

Flatly rejected by independent studies too, not to mention the ONS of course.

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22:24 PM, 19th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "mark andrews" at "19/06/2016 - 20:54":

Yes, rents will have to climb rapidly now - much against my wishes.

I see you're not arguing against hugely inflated rents from your new buddies at the faceless international corporations who are moving in to fleece you in a way you never imagined possible. How do your friends at HPC feel about that? Turkeys voting for Christmas again, are they? Let's see how keen the multinational hedge and pension funds are to allow you months of negotiation on non-payments. Suspect you'll find out just too late!

Eden Lan

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23:50 PM, 19th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Hi
If any accountants out here with a little time please check these 2 links to see if any help to Chris & Steve.(JR)

The 1st one is consultation on interest rate. Please see 6.2 the last sentence.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/tax-deductibility-of-corporate-interest-expense/tax-deductibility-of-corporate-interest-expense-consultation

6.2 Scope of an interest restriction

Companies in large multinational groups pose the main base erosion and profit shifting risk. However, depending on their design, rules which only applied to multinational groups could discriminate in favor of domestic groups and stand-alone companies. This could harm the UK economy and may be contrary to EU law.

2ND LINK is after the 1st consultation headed May 2016. They may start with corporate non res landlords but look at the limit on interest rate allowed. Plus to GROUP COMPANIES and the way I read it domestic companies are not affected. There are 2 arguments here.
There could be more but too complicated for me,

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/525923/tax_deductibility_second_consultation_v2.pdf

Question 31: To what extent are PAIFs likely to be impacted by the proposals in their current form?
If applicable, how could the rules be adapted so that they protect the property rental profits of PAIFs from excessive interest deductions just as they do for other property rental groups?

corporate non-resident landlords
The government is considering whether and how the interest restriction rules should apply to companies with a liability to UK income tax.
It would welcome views on this issue

MoodyMolls

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7:11 AM, 20th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Dr Rosalind Beck ." at "17/06/2016 - 13:41":

What this shows is it is right to challenge governments , I think the French government was challenged on this by one person

The European Court of Justice ruled on February 26, 2015 that France should not apply social contributions on income perceived by non-residents. This decision was seen to spell the end of the 15.5% social charges applied to capital gains and rental income earned by foreign homeowners who sell or let out their holiday home in France.

The ruling EU Pilot 5973/2013 issued on February 26 rests on EU regulation No1408/71, dated 1971, that set out that European residents were only required to pay social charges in the member state of which they were resident. The ECJ now has found that the French law requiring non-residents to pay 15.5% social charges on income gained in France resulted in such non-residents paying social charges twice, once in their country of residence, and again when the levies were applied in France. It is not yet clear if the ruling applies only to residents of another EU country and Switzerland who are affiliated to the social security system of their country of resident, or if it will apply to all non-residents, regardless of the country of residence.

https://www.frenchentree.com/french-property/selling-homes/social-charges-in-france-no-longer-apply-to-non-residents/
https://www.french-property.com/news/tax_france/capital_gains_claims_non_europeans/
http://parispropertygroup.com/blog/2015/capital-gains-tax-refunds-for-real-estate-sales-france/
http://wmledger.com/united-states-investment-in-french-real-estate-refund-opportunities-on-capital-gains-taxation/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2854157/At-Europe-set-say-non-France-illegal-tax-Britons-selling-holiday-homes.html

http://www.property118.com/tenanttax-summit-report-action-plan/87821/

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10:10 AM, 20th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Prester John

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10:17 AM, 20th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Regardng this Basel III thing that seems to be exercising the trolls. Compliance with it is voluntary, is it not?

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10:17 AM, 20th June 2016, About 8 years ago

Hi Eden

Reading between the lines they are considering limiting interest deductibility of any companies which is scary I just can't see how they can do it

Without sounding paranoid could the government be trying to get debt down in this country by taxing it thus encouraging de leverage across the board through backing everyone into a corner we all know this country is drowning in debt which is hampering growth. If this is true it is a dangerous experiment if they want to put the breaks on debt just tax new debt not debt that has been acrued in the past

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