Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

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Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Budget proposals to “restrict finance cost relief to individual landlords”Summer Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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14:42 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

It's unbelievable isn't it they have a massive shortage and that make it difficult to operate. Universal credit, no empty council tax relief,no direct payment to landlord, they work in periods all landlords work PCM and then to top it all off clause 24 and stamp duty hike I really can't understand this government

I have spoke to numerous letting agents and estate agents about my properties since Xmas amd not one person in those industries had a clue about these new tax changes. You should have seen there faces when I explained horror springs to mind this is ( and I hate the saying ) A TICKING TIME BOMB it really does begger believe what this total fool is doing to a very professional and much needed industry

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15:39 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

Hi Michael

If it is all about survival, then, this is too rich coming from a conservative party intent on “taxing Private Landlords out of existence” as per clause 24.
Pls take your concerns somewhere else. I shall, definitely, not be voting conservatives - ever again.

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15:45 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ahmad Jibril" at "22/01/2016 - 15:39":

Hey I got that email to, my reply was probably equally as scathing.

I appreciate the countries defence needs are important, however the conservative government is destroying the housing market by the driving out of private landlords which in turn will make many homeless as they will be in no position to buy. To me housing and the private landlord industry is equally as important to the security of the nation.

How are you driving out private landlords? Simple, you are disallowing finance costs as a running cost of their businesses, simple maths for anyone else, Turnover - costs = taxable profit, not so for the conservative government.
The knock on effect will hurt other construction related businesses like mine whereby I provide services to property companies, most buy to let businesses, these businesses are no longer purchasing and therefore no longer require design work to bring old stock back into use or to develop new properties. Many other supporting industries are also being hurt.

Therefore, I and many thousands of others in the construction industry are unable to offer any support to the conservative party. You may thank your chancellor.

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16:03 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ros ." at "20/01/2016 - 21:24":

Thanks Ross
I have wrote to my MP and am awaiting a response.

In he mean time I am asking everyone I know (including my tenants) to sign the ongoing petition to reverse this absurd decision.

Dr Rosalind Beck

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16:06 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

Written Answers - Department for Communities and Local Government: Tenancy Agreements (21 Jan 2016)
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2016-01-12.22177.h&s=landlords#g22177.r0
Brandon Lewis: The Government does not hold this data. We are
progressing longer tenancies by promoting a model tenancy with bodies representing *landlords*, tenants, letting agents, mortgage lenders, and local authorities. Recent figures in the English Housing Survey, Households 2013-14 show that tenancy lengths in the private rented sector have increased to an average of 3.5 years.

So this is an acknowledgement that many tenancies are quite long-term - as many people only want one year tenancies (students for example), this indicates that many people stay a lot longer than 3 and a half years. We know that as long as the tenant is a good tenant, they can stay in our houses for 10 years; why would we want short-term tenancies? And this is one of the excuses they use for favouring institutions.

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16:07 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

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16:48 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Trendo " at "22/01/2016 - 16:07":

If Virgin Trains had to pay 40% tax on all of their fares collected, but could not offset the loans to buy the rolling stock, would they be buying any more new trains?

Would fares go up, or there be more overcrowding? Or both?

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17:08 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ahmad Jibril" at "22/01/2016 - 15:39":

Well, if they don't stop taxing small businesses out of existence, there'll be nothing worth defending, so ...

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19:04 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

I gave my MP, Grant Shapps, the chance to respond to my email before forwarding it to the BBC. He didn't, so I did. Bit long winded, I apologise, but here it is:

Dear Grant

I voted Tory at the last election. I’ve always considered myself a classic Tory voter, although I have voted for other parties in two elections: Blair, unfortunately wooed me first time round, and the coalition was partly down to me. Other than that, I’ve always voted Tory.

I’ve always found politics a pretty frustrating field where anyone can promise what they want and do something else and not be held to account. A manifesto can only be relied upon as a hugely inflated list of things a party will dream up in order to attract voters. Why on earth we haven’t a system in place which renders a manifesto something like a contractual offer where there are penalties if promises are broken is beyond me. It’s no wonder the electorate is so utterly fed-up with politicians and all parties. Nothing a politician or party says can be relied upon, which makes a mockery of democracy. I choose who to vote for based on what they tell me they stand for and what is written in their manifesto.

Since the last election, I have regretted my vote more than at any other time in my life, for both local and national elections. I took time to read the summary manifestos for the three parties I would consider voting for so that I could make the best choice for me, my family and the nation. No one party was going to offer everything to suit me, but as usual, the Tories were going to allow me to continue to work hard, invest in property for my future pension provisions as a sideline, and would probably handle the economy better than any other party.

The first decision George Osborne made which angered me was the abolition of tax credits for working people. I don’t get tax credits, despite being a single parent due to me just about breaking into the 40% tax bracket, but one thing I’m very happy for my taxes to be spent on is help for those who strive to work to make ends meet rather than staying on full welfare. I cannot for the life of me work out how this was ever considered by the Tory party. Aren’t you supposed to be encouraging people back to work? The most sickening part was the disingenuous clap-trap being spouted by GO and the party of how this would be set-off against increases in minimum wage. Many of these people were struggling anyway, how one earth would an immediate cut in tax credits be alleviated by increase in minimum wage in a few years? How many people on tax credits are above the minimum wage anyway?

The welfare slashes to the Disabled and Elderly are sickening. I don’t know enough about these to comment.

As mentioned, I’m a single parent with a job. Since I don’t have a pension, 4 years ago I entered into property investment via let-to-buy and downgrading my living arrangements. The following year I moved again, and let out a second home. This has stretched me financially, but no more than I had planned and it is all part of my strategy to provide for myself in the future, and my son through university.

I have excellent tenants in both properties. One family have been with me for just over two years. They are in their 50s and their grown up son lives with them. They have good jobs - she is a nurse, he is a plumber. I believe the son is an electrician. They moved into my house after having their home repossessed. I was extremely nervous about taking them on, but luckily, it has proved to be a very good decision. They love their home, and I’m very happy to have them looking after it. I have not increased their rent since they’ve been here as I had no reason to do so. My costs hadn’t increased significantly, and a good tenant is worth looking after and hanging on to. Unfortunately, due to the tax changes being brought in, I will be notifying them of a rent rise this month, which will reflect rent rises by corporate LLs in the area, approximately 10% for the period. In the notice of rent rise, I will be explaining exactly why I’m doing this. Every single LL I know will be doing the same. With just two properties, since I am in the 40% tax band, and I will now be paying tax on £19K on mortgages per year, I will have to keep rents bang up to the maximum the market permits. Since demand for rental is so high, and my properties are lovely, I foresee no problems with retaining or replacing tenants if they chose to move due to rent rises.

My second tenants are new to me since August. They seem lovely, and were desperate to move into my home and I was delighted they cleared all the checks and referencing. They were worried as they had some concern about their credit history due to some missed CC payments. I don’t know why they choose to rent, but they were at their last rented property for 23 years, and only chose to move as the LL was selling. They have good jobs - she works in a hospice, and he is a football scout. I had no intention of increasing their rent as I want them to stay with me as long as possible, but I will now be increasing rents annually in accordance with the Housing Act.

Do you think either of my tenants could secure mortgages if they wanted to?

I hope I will be able to make the finances work after clause 24 through rent increases, and possible remortgaging (I certainly can’t work any harder), but if not then I will need to evict my tenants and sell my properties. That’s two families evicted and me with no pension provision for the future. That really was not what I expected as the outcome of me voting Tory.

I know directly, and indirectly through social media, hundreds of LLs, and we are all good LLs, intent on looking after our tenants, complying with continual changes in legislation, and paying our taxes on income (profit) fairly.

No LL I know understands the logic behind C24. What particularly puzzles me is that Tories traditionally support those who want to work hard and provide for themselves, as well as encouraging entrepreneurialism. After all, we all know that stimulating the micro economy boosts the macro economy.

But what sickens me (and I’m not overemphasising that) is the absolute discrimination in favour of the wealthy elite and large corporations. This is what the Tories now stand for! Corporations are exempt from the policy as are those with more than 15 properties! I’m speechless! What formula was used to calculate the 15 property exemption number? Is that the minimum number of properties the average Tory MP owns? Certainly Osborne and his family who have benefitted very well in their property investments from some Maverick tax avoidance.

In summary, I’d like to point out, through my experience and knowledge of the sector, the effects of c24:

1. Rents WILL rise. The RICS estimates by 25% by 2020. I think that’s a fair average. Many LLs like myself with good tenants may introduce higher rent rises than that to catch up with the market.
2. Tenants will be evicted as some LLs will sell some properties. This may be simply because they choose to get out of the game since it is no longer profitable, or because being taxed on turnover will actually push them into a deficit. These LLs were operating on tight margins anyway, and interest rises may have eventually hit them, but it’s still stress and upheaval for tenants.
3. Corporations will buy up rental stock sold off from the PRS. Corporate LLs will absolutely maximise profits and increase rents as much as the market permits.
4. Hundreds of thousands of PAYE workers like me will chose to opt out of the market as it is no longer a viable pension investment option. That means hundreds of thousands of people without pension provisions in the future. Further pressure on that deafeningly loud tick of the pension time bomb that this country will very soon be unable to ignore, like your government is doing.
5. There will be NO increase in housing stock. But there will be a further shortage of housing for families like my tenants who cannot buy as they are unable to secure mortgages. What is to happen to them? Temporary accommodation or LA social housing? We don’t have enough of that, and the council certainly couldn’t afford it. There will be a catastrophic effect on the social housing sector directly as a result of this policy and its decimation of the private rental sector.
6. The loss of the next election for Tories. Unless there are fundamental changes, and a return to the core values and policies of the Tory party, I will not be voting for you again. Of the estimated 3m LLs in this country, I’d say a good 50% of them must be straight forward Tory voters. Not anymore. The LL community it absolutely outraged at clause 24. Many many have said that they will never vote Tory again. I chose Tory last time as they offered the best for me and the nation; now you attack everyone including the poor, the sick, the elderly and middle income core Tories like me. The only people the Tories look after are the extremely wealthy and big business. The Bullingdon Club Party.

I understand the need to steady the housing market, and make it easier, or even possible for first time buyers to get onto the housing ladder, but clause 24 is not going to do either. It’s so badly thought out, in fact, I struggle to believe it was thought through at all. The only benefit it will bring is to the wealthy elite and big corporations due to the competitive advantage it will give them through tax advantages over the little players like me.

Yours sincerely,

Rachel Hodge
ex-Tory voter.

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20:47 PM, 22nd January 2016, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Rachel Hodge" at "22/01/2016 - 19:04":

Excellent letter Rachel, I think it would behove all of us to sign as 'Ex Tory voters' when communicating with MP's

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