Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

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Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Budget proposals to “restrict finance cost relief to individual landlords”Summer Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Barry Fitzpatrick

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13:57 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

Just the following off to my MP:

Dear Andrew,

I appreciate what you say, and no matter where the tax axe falls it will be unpopular with those it affects. Although I do not like the tax changes I support the direction that the Government is going in reducing the deficit.

However, the further taxation individual Landlords seems to be nothing more than vindictiveness; and a blatant attempt to put individual Landlords, who have like myself gone in BTL to provide an independent income for myself in retirement, and not to be dependent upon the State, out of business. And favouring the large corporates that are looking to enter the rental market, and even lowering the rates of Corporation Tax on their declared profits (after they’ve, no doubt, whittled it down using various tax avoidance techniques).

The change in SDLT will not have any immediate impact on myself unless I have to sell as a result of the Summer Budget changes. However, I do feel that tax changes that affect businesses should not give a competitive advantage to one group over another who operate in the same market sector. For the SDLT the exemption of corporates with 15 or more properties, and for the Restriction of Mortgage Interest the exemption of all corporates, and wealthy Landlords that do not have mortgaged properties is anti-competitive, unfair and unjustifiable.

I do think that the Government should adhere to its own principles of Taxation Policy that taxes should be fair, provide certainty, and not be retrospective.

Regards

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To: Barry Fitzpatrick
Subject: Re: If the Chancellor wants to wipe out buy to let, why doesn't he just say so?

Thank you. All taxes are unpopular and I won't be opposing this budget statement just because of one element especially since most of it is very good indeed. It looks like he is hypothecating the £60 million he expects to get for this to social housing.
On trading style, businesses respond according to the prevailing fiscal environment and your accountant will advise on whether incorporation is in your best interests. I suspect it will in many cases. That said, I can well appreciate how you feel and that's why I've sent your email to the Chancellor so a response can be obtained from the responsible minister.
Regards,
Andrew

Saeef Khan

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15:23 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Barry Fitzpatrick" at "30/11/2015 - 13:57":

Barry,

Good effort which is clearly commendable.

If you recall, when Chancellor made announcements back in July 2015 he clearly stated that, he will phase this change over the course of 4 years so landlords can rearrange their financial affairs"

I remained sceptical as to how to rearrange financial affairs until, I met an accountant namely Simon Lever who I discovered from this site, put my mind at rest. As your MP has stated that incorporation may be way forward therefore making a comparison with Corporations and condemning their position may not be way forward as this may be our escape route.

As I understand, if you have reasonable sized portfolio and you spend more than 20 hours a week, depending on indvidual circumstances, Stamp Duty as well as CGT for incorpoation may well be avoided.

You might be thinking of higher rates and arrangement fees, that too should become competitive once these changes come in as lenders will be more receptive to new business when personal side is closed.

Dr Rosalind Beck

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15:31 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Barry Fitzpatrick" at "30/11/2015 - 13:57":

Hi Barry.
You wrote an excellent letter and you received a crap one by way of reply. How would this guy know that incorporation would be a good option for you? And why the f*ck should you have to do that? These politicians are really showing their true 'don't give a damn' colours. And many of the journalists aren't much better. I can never decide if they're plain thick or just deliberately obtuse. And what on earth is 'hypothecating' apart from a really pretentious word?

Michael Fox

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16:05 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Chris Cooper" at "30/11/2015 - 13:20":

Hi Chris, I just joined the forum and read your comment....thats quite shocking numbers it really is!
I have 3 BTL (one is HMO) all leveraged at about 70% and i haven't done any calculations yet but not really looking forward to it now.

I have a plan to build a portfolio but the new GO tax changes may rule this out....

Barry Fitzpatrick

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17:09 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

@Saaef,
I accept your point but we cannot hold the moral high ground if we want to promote an un-level playing field.

@Ros
I don't think any MP will do anything to rock the boat within his/her party, and run the risk of selection or getting a Cabinet position. Even if they are 120% in agreement with your argument I think they'd rather let GO hang himself rather than them being the hangman.
In this context "hypothecate" means ring-fenced for a specified purpose, rather than just going in the general exchequer revenue pot.

Barry Fitzpatrick

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17:17 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

***** should be deselection not selection ******

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17:30 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Chris Cooper" at "29/11/2015 - 20:08":

Hi

I to had the same reply, but at least we got a reply some just dont bother.

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22:36 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ros ." at "29/11/2015 - 21:09":

Here is an email that my husband just sent to Ian Cowie (who is now with the Sunday Times) ... btw. Ian has a twitter account ! (understandably not many followers) .. but one could bombard his twitter account with comments!

To: ian.cowie@sunday-times.co.uk
Subject: FW: article in the telegraph 12 Oct 2012 - about becoming a BTL landlord and boost your pension!!
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 21:46:46 +0000

Hi Ian
Is your article in 2012 compatible with your recent attacks?
Should you not have given a health warning then to prospective, current and future pensioners about your future plan of attack?

Unlike you I feel sorry for middle England who have bought their 2-4 BTL properties to fund their retirement and are now hit below the belt – well done Ian you have done a stirling job to screw them.

Oh and well done for supporting Osbournes’ support of his dinner party buddies with their big corporate BTL portfolios (Grosvenor etc) who of course are not affected – well done!

Regards
Andrew Wilmot

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22:39 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

Why do landlords think if they are forced to sell up or not able to buy anymore properties this will cause some sort of housing shortage?! The homes will be still there, all that will happen is either someone will purchase to live in, prices will drop in areas to fall in line with current rents so making it viable to let or larger companies will own the properties and in reality probably be better maintained/managed and remove amateurs out of the industry. All for this move, and I'm now starting to think maybe the government is starting to actually sort out the housing mess, especially in the south.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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22:50 PM, 30th November 2015, About 9 years ago

You've forgotten one thing. Less buyers = less properties built.

The knock on effect will be higher demand as the population continues to grow. Rents and values will continue to rise.
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