Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

14:00 PM, 8th July 2015, About 9 years ago 9619

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Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Budget proposals to “restrict finance cost relief to individual landlords”Summer Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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16:17 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "kathleen drea" at "14/07/2015 - 16:07":

No she isn't, the interest is being deducted from her expenses, not added to her income.
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syed shah

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16:28 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Something tells me this will be heavily diluted , I mean how many Tory mp's are their with property? Do they want to be taxed more ? Or even the price of their rental properties to be decay in value by this new legislation? I think this will scrutinised heavily in parliament , I hope.

Neil Robb

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16:35 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Hi All we cant keep up with this thread

If have saw people say sell up how. Who is going to buy into buy to let with these measures coming in.

Why would you run a business when you can't make any money in fact with these proposals you will have to add money to allow a family to live in your property.

There is many people when buying is totally out of question. Who have to rent due to low income, Zero hours contracts or bad debt.

The council cant home them. The market in most areas apart from London and south England does not have a huge demand. Or am I missing something.

When interest rates go up it will mean even bigger tax liability. I really can not see how this wont affect 20% tax payers.

Interest cost less 20% still leaves 80% to add as income even though it is a cost.

My Thoughts are getting to the stage wife stops working we sell of taking the hit on our mortgaged properties then we will have an income but not hugely penalised.

Destroying what we built up for the future and our child.

Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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16:38 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Neil Robb" at "14/07/2015 - 16:35":

I am with you on most points Rob apart from this one ...

"When interest rates go up it will mean even bigger tax liability. I really can not see how this wont affect 20% tax payers."

You tax bill won't go up as interest rates rise, it will go down, but your cashflow will be worse despite paying less tax. That's the reality of it.
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16:41 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "14/07/2015 - 15:32":

Mark,

I would agree with Ros on that sentence

"According to the new proposal, we would have made a taxable profit during this time"…

As HMRC would not consider, based on proposed legislation the fact property was empty and Ros was not receiving any income they would still tax her purely because she had made interest payments to the bank.

Therefore she should not have been asked to remove that sentence....apologies I have observed something which I am merely pointing out.

Please do not see this as I am not knit picking.

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16:43 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "James dengel" at "14/07/2015 - 10:32":

James Dengel

Am afraid for me the position is worse than you specify.....under ir35, when I pay myself PAYE.....I have 20% income tax, 12.5% NI tax, and then because I am the owner of my limited company...I have to pay Employee's NI tax (around 11%) I think.

So my current rate of tax is nearer to 50%.

But we are going slightly off topic.... 🙂

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16:45 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Neil Robb" at "14/07/2015 - 16:35":

Neil,

You are right in saying, more interest you pay, higher the tax you'll be expected to pay. You do seem to understand alongside Appalled Landlord and myself including....:-)

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16:48 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "14/07/2015 - 16:38":

Mark,

Yes it does...I think you might be missing a point. More Interest you pay, more tax you will pay.

If you have made £0 profit and made £200000 interest payments...as a higher rate tax payer you will pay £40000 tax and that"s after 20% relief.

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16:51 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Gary Mason" at "14/07/2015 - 16:41":

Hi Gary

Ros will be taxed on income less expenses (excluding mortgage interest).

Due to having 4 months of no income her income over the year would be a third less than she was expecting. Accordingly her taxable profit will be lower than she was expecting too.

Her mortgage was still paid, therefore she would still be able to claim her tax relief on the mortgage.

Mortgage interest does not add to your tax liability. You have to imagine you don't have a mortgage and then work out your tax that way. Then if you do have a BTL mortgage, take 20% of of the interest you have paid on that mortgage, and that's how much you can knock off your tax bill.

The way to calculate your taxable income has changed, previously mortgage interest was treated as a fully legitimate expense regardless of what rate of tax we pay. Now it isn't treated as an expense at all, we all just get the same 20% tax relief.

Does that make more sense now?
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Kathleen

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16:51 PM, 14th July 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Alexander" at "14/07/2015 - 16:17":

Hi Mark
My interpretation is:
If it was an allowable cost - then it would be reducing income
- by not allowing it - income appears higher - tax is due on this apparently higher income
- which is causing all the distortions ie why tax is due when there is no real income.
The tax should be due on real income - as its called income tax.

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