Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

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Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Budget proposals to “restrict finance cost relief to individual landlords”Summer Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Charmaine ******

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11:56 AM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Hi All,

I have just received the following e mail from James Brokenshire MP
as a follow up to our meeting

Thank you for meeting with me last week and for sending me a number of pieces of information on the subject as follow up. As discussed, I think the best thing for me to do is to write to David Gauke, sharing a copy of his previous response and asking for responses to some specific questions; namely, when HMRC assesses a property portfolio to be an investment or a business and why the proposed legislation allows characterisation of ownership (ie through a company) to define the underlying activity of whether a business is being conducted or not. I shall also ask him to respond more generally to the points you raise on section 24 of the Finance Bill and raise the issue of the retrospective inclusion of portfolios in the current proposals. I shall let you know what response I receive.

Yours sincerely,

James Brokenshire MP

At our meeting Mr Brokenshire came across as intelligent - he was quick to see the issues and interested in following this up ( unlike Michael Fallon who I met with the following day who came across as going through the motions and not really giving two hoots ).

I wonder if it would be beneficial for other members of this Forum to contact James Brokenshire MP as well , whether or not you happen to be in his constituency , to add weight to the challenge to these proposals.

He may well be one to champion our cause .

TheMaluka

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12:37 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Charmaine ******" at "14/09/2015 - 11:56":

"( unlike Michael Fallon who I met with the following day who came across as going through the motions and not really giving two hoots )"

Exactly the same response I received from Mr Fallon when I approached him on an entirely different matter some ten years ago.

Dr Rosalind Beck

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14:03 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Charmaine ******" at "14/09/2015 - 11:56":

Well done Charmaine.
Can you give us his email address, just to make it a bit easier? As you say, he could be our champion - we have another one who seems to see it for what it is - Stephen McPartland. I think it would be good if a few of us could contact both of these and see if they're willing to work together on it?

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17:22 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Dear Kathy,

The Chancellor announced in the 2015 Summer Budget that from 2020 Mortgage Interest Relief for residential landlords would be restricted to the basic rate of income tax (20%). This will be phased in from 2017. You can read more about these changes on our RLA taxation campaign page here

Basic rate taxpayers believe they will be unaffected by the changes, but because tax will now effectively be applied to turnover, not profit, many will find themselves paying 40% tax in 2020.

As part of our ongoing campaigning on this issue we are trying to demonstrate to Government that they have very much underestimated the number of Landlords that will be affected by these changes. The Government have said the changes will only affect one in five landlords. However, we believe the number of Landlords affected will be much higher.

If you are unsure if you will move tax bands as a result of the proposals why not try our Tax Calculator to help work out how the changes will affect you? You can access the calculator here.

Please take a few seconds to complete this short survey to help us to demonstrate to HMRC they have got their estimates wrong.

Saeef Khan

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17:57 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

As Kathy posted above.

Please complete RLA survey which is to be presented to government and will only take 5 seconds. (Just a confirmation whether or not you will become higher to addtional tax payer as result of new legislation- one question only .

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/HKPN5FX

Saeef Khan

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18:00 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Please ensure that, everyone including their family and friends completes this survey (providing they own BTL property) as higher the percentage of people being affected...more government stance on this legislation is flawed, where they have explicilty claimed that less than 1 in 5 landlords are affected.

Dr Rosalind Beck

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18:20 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "KATHY MILLER" at "14/09/2015 - 17:22":

Hi Kathy.
You seem to have a good conduit to the RLA - they never ever answer me! I just wrote to them again, using the 'reply' to the latest e-newsletter they sent me (maybe that's where I'm going wrong), I'm wondering if you can forward my email below to them for me using the email address you receive emails from? It might be helpful if a few others wrote similar emails with their own circumstances as I don't believe they're concentrating on the key issue. This is my email:

'Hi.

I am writing regarding the latest survey on whether people will move from being a basic rate taxpayer to being a higher rate taxpayer. I just completed the survey and had to put that I am currently a higher rate tax payer and will be after the 'tax grab' as well.

This is because in my last tax return my profit after costs (including finance costs of course) was £50,000, so I was only just in the higher rate really and have only been in that bracket for a few years because of the low interest rates. If there were no changes to the tax system, once interest rates had gone up a small amount I would have been back in the basic rate category again. The effect of interest rate rises is obviously to reduce actual profit.

So although this moving from one bracket to another is part of the picture, for me the issue will be that under the new regime, even with no interest rate rises, my so-called 'profit' (now that I can't include finance costs) will become £90,000, so a much more significant part of my so-called 'profit' will be in the higher tax bracket - and any interest rate rise will make things that much worse. It is the fact that as interest rates rise and our costs increase we will be deemed to have 'earned' more. I still can't believe that if someone truly understood this they could still support it. It's mad!

So can this issue also be flagged up with the Treasury please?

Thanks'.

Actually, Kathy - I've just received the email myself so will copy and send my message off replying to that one myself.

Kathleen

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18:40 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ros ." at "14/09/2015 - 18:20":

Hi Ros
Another serious consequence of this bonkers proposal is that people who are lower rate taxpayers currently and in receipt of a fixed pension income - will be taxed on it at 40/45% when they are pushed onto the imaginary income!
RLA should also be made aware of this.

Kathleen

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18:52 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ros ." at "14/09/2015 - 18:20":

Hi All
I have just had a reply from my 2nd email to my Conservative MP Heidi Allen and she has said she will take up my concerns with the Chancellor. I have given her the article by Richard Dyson in the Telegraph.

Kathleen

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18:56 PM, 14th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ros ." at "14/09/2015 - 18:20":

Hi All
I have just had a reply from my 2nd email to my Conservative MP Heidi Allen and she has said she will take up my concerns with the Chancellor. I have given her the article by Richard Dyson in the Telegraph.

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