Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

Summer Budget 2015 – Landlords Reactions

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Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Budget proposals to “restrict finance cost relief to individual landlords”Summer Budget 2015 - Landlords Reactions

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Barry Fitzpatrick

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20:59 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Mark Shine" at "12/09/2015 - 19:31":

@Mark

II think we would be shooting ourselves in the foot with such proposal.

Our major plank of our argument against this proposal is that it crazy/unfair to tax income rather than profits. A tax surcharge on PROFITS from residential letting businesses would be more logical, and support our arguments not knock them down.

Markb

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21:07 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Saeef Khan" at "12/09/2015 - 18:08":

I don't necessarily disagree that benefits recipient tenants should not live in properties where landlords have mortgages and or are getting tax relief to provide homes - it may be a double whammy. The argument makes some sense and if it reduces my tax I am for it. That is why we have council housing and we used to have much more of them. It was welfare housing for welfare tenants - all is fair... it was good.. tenants got a deal and everyone was happy - happy days... wasn't it?.

However I don't have any welfare tenants and but do have mortgages and they can have their right to buy my houses from me at a discount -over my dead body!

Any one renting to benefit tenants should mark today, as Corbyn has a good chance of winning in 2020 and he will give tenants the right to buy and those on benefits in council or PRS housing will get the first go, so take tax money / benefit monies at you're own risk.

What a sad world where being benevolent stands you to get sucker punched by the recipients of your good nature and generosity!

What is the temperature in Belize today?

Dr Rosalind Beck

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21:10 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Ah, yes, well said Barry. It would have to be on actual profits.

On another subject, I am looking for assistance. I just read this:

'Corbyn has proposed the idea of linking private rents to local average earnings and introducing a right to buy for private tenants of large-scale landlords, a scheme that would be funded by withdrawing some of the £14bn of tax allowances given to buy-to-let landlords.'

Can someone tell me what the tax allowances are? It looks like one hell of a lot of money and I haven't been claiming mine. I must be in for a massive windfall of back payments!

Markb

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21:27 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

I don't know Ros, but I think we should get Jezzer and Adam Prospect together and if they don't drown in their own BS they can fix the world. Jezzer can have the brains and Adam can pay for it from his massive mortgage free rental receipts.

Perfect isolation indeed!

adam prospect

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21:37 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Ros ." at "12/09/2015 - 20:44":

I thought I illustrated what the government believes is the legitimate reason No other business runs on interest only and equity release.

No bullying here and certainly no hatred. No apologies either - I won't be called a bully for expressing a contra view.

Empathy for those now tied in - yes. Empathy for this tone - no.

I am a Landlord and the comparisons/quotes lose my support. Give those quotes and examples the to the MPs and Newspapers and see what empathy it generates across the general population who are not LLs.

It belittles the plight of those victims and the only thing necessary for such a poor comparison to become the norm is when ''good men say nothing.''
I won't walk by such a comparison...nor should others on this thread.

Saeef Khan

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21:47 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "adam prospect" at "12/09/2015 - 19:52":

Adam, I hope you are not related to James Tallis? Mark has already put him on his bike. I assume you'll be next.

Please do not rub salt in our wounds... you might be feeling rich (charitable) but we are not.

Please keep your generous views to yourself this site/forum is dedicated to fight this unjust tax not to support.

Appalled Landlord

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22:28 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "adam prospect" at "12/09/2015 - 19:52":

Hi Adam

Ros is right. If we hadn’t had interest-only mortgages, there would be fewer dwellings now, as it there would have been fewer new builds, and fewer rehabilitations of run-down houses that owner-occupiers would not touch. Having to repay the loan as well as the interest out of the market rent would literally have been prohibitive.

You wrote: “Expect – I repeat – absolutely expect the Mortgage Review to completely stop IO loans and that could be retrospective too.”

By retrospective, do you mean that lenders will call in existing loans, or just convert them to repayment loans (either of which would bankrupt us)? And what leads you to expect either? Or is it just baseless scare-mongering?

adam prospect

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22:30 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Saeef Khan" at "12/09/2015 - 21:47":

And thats fair enough if the forum is to fight the tax - rather than gauge all reactions. I can understand that.

I will watch - whether I am a member or not - and ask Mark to moderate those comparisons made. If he doesn't I will share them with the MPs and reporters myself. They don't help your cause and have ensured one vote lost.

Markb

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22:30 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Barry Fitzpatrick" at "12/09/2015 - 20:59":

Barry can i get a conversation with you off line?

adam prospect

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22:38 PM, 12th September 2015, About 9 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Appalled Landlord" at "12/09/2015 - 22:28":

I won't scare monger or pretend I know what will happen with IO mortgages. But I personally now expect this as a real risk and am planning for it.

Roger Rabbit has neatly listed some key risks, including IO mortgages - and each of those I see as something I need to plan as best I can for.

I do have personal empathy - as an established LL do you not think I may know one or two LLs who are impacted? But as I said before I can't walk by those comments made here.

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