Bank of Ireland increase differential on tracker rates

Bank of Ireland increase differential on tracker rates

10:32 AM, 28th February 2013, About 12 years ago 1862

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The story of the Bank of Ireland decision to increase to the differential (interest rate margin) on  tracker mortgages started on this forum when a professional landlord contacted Property118 within minutes of a letter from Bank of Ireland landing on his door mat. What ensued was outrage from landlords and affected residential mortgage borrowers. The story was quickly picked up by the National Media as it wasn’t just the 13,500 affected borrowers who were worried.

Will this set a precedent for other mortgage lenders to follow?

Property118 reacted by using funds donated to The GOOD Landlords Campaign to underwrite the cost of a barristers opinion on the legality of the Bank of Ireland’s actions. The remainder of this thread,one of the most read and most commented threads of all time on Property118, continues to tell the story as it unfolds.

If you want to skip the story and cut to the chase simply CLICK HERE

Of the 13,500 affected borrowers, 1,200 have had the decision reversed by Bank of Ireland. With additional support and pressure we believe all affected borrowers can and will see justice done.

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Lee, a professional Landlord asks, “help! I have just received a letter from the Bank of Ireland stating they want to increase the differential on my tracker rates.

I have 12 mortgages with the Bank of Ireland previously Bristol and West. I have been on a base rate tracker of 1.75% above base, but now Bank of Ireland are using some fine print claiming they have to recapitalise and saying the ‘new differential will be 4.49%.

How can I fight back?”

The original policy wording seems to be:

6 INTEREST

Charging interest at a tracker rate

(j) Unless we change the differential (if any) under condition 6 (n), we will not change the tracker rate unless the base rate changes.

(m) in condition 6 (n):
– a “positive differential” means a percentage which we add to the base rate to arrive at the tracker rate; and a “negative differential” means a percentage which we subtract from the base rate to arrive at the tracker rate.

(n) We may reduce a positive differential or increase a negative differential at our discretion by giving you not less than seven days written notice. This means that we can change the differential in a way that is favourable to you.

The above seems to indicate that they can reduce the rate in my favour, but not give them the right to increase it. Am I correct?


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Mark Alexander - Founder of Property118

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20:08 PM, 17th May 2015, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "LS " at "16/05/2015 - 13:40":

I have no idea what Mark Smith has in mind at the moment, perhaps a joining of forces with Paul Brindley is possible, we will just have to wait and see.

I have to say, I am incredibly disheartened at the lack of response to the fund raising proposal. It makes we wonder sometimes why I bother to put all the effort into campaigns like this. If I'd have been paid minimum wage for the hours I've spent on this campaign I'd have raised more than those who are having their bank accounts raided every month by the banksters.

However, proof that I am an eternal optimist is that I've still not totally given up. Here at am at 20:08 on a Sunday evening following the thread and still responding.
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20:25 PM, 17th May 2015, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Paul Brindley" at "17/05/2015 - 18:15":

Firstly, I don't have a portfolio of 'properties'.

Secondly, seeing as you asked, Paul, I did, in fact, let out my flat (which was my home for some years previously), to a single mother who was struggling to support her child and get herself off benefits.

I believe I have assisted her and her daughter by never raising the rent since she moved in, 10 years ago (and I am not rich by any standards - my annual income is below the taxable level). I understand as much as the next person, the need to earn a living - we all have to.

Despite the BoI more than doubling my mortgage on that flat, I have still not increased her rent, because I was hoping, and still hope, that the BoI can be challenged. I don't see why that single mother should have to have a huge hike in her rent, to accommodate the greed of the BoI. If and when I have exhausted all means to challenge the BoI, either I will have to sell my old home, or she will have to move out, as she simply would not be able to afford the rent hike if I put it up.

I take a similar view in my job. When I see a real need, I will help where I can. It always comes back, double-fold. Everyone has their own path to tread. I am not judging anyone on decisions they make.

Paul Brindley

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20:51 PM, 17th May 2015, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Black Panther" at "17/05/2015 - 20:25":

How very charitable of you.

And just what do you know about what I do for the benefit of others that enables you to give me a sermon?

Nothing...

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21:09 PM, 17th May 2015, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Paul Brindley" at "17/05/2015 - 20:51":

I answered your question with facts. It's you who called it a 'sermon'.

If you didn't want an answer, you shouldn't have asked the question.

Like I say, I'm not here to judge anyone and hopefully no-one will judge me (although I realise there's a certain inevitability... like being accused of giving a sermon - par for the course, methinks 🙂

We're all here to try and right a 'wrong' made by the Banksters. United we stand, divided we fall. C'mon guys, let's focus on the job in hand.

Paul Brindley

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21:26 PM, 17th May 2015, About 10 years ago

I think it's probably fair to call 5 quotations from reasonably well known people strung together to put a point over to make the reader reconsider the way they approach something in their life 'a sermon'.

You really did not need to go to such lengths.

Concerned about my BOI mortgage

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21:39 PM, 17th May 2015, About 10 years ago

I had a conversation with Paul Brindley about the work that he has done to see if it could be used to support my case. I concluded that it would be incredibly difficult and potentially costly to make a stand on my own. I do think there is a case here to utilise what Paul has put together to support some kind of action against the BoI. The latest suggestion about challenging the BoI on the re-possessions would seem to be the last chance on the stairway. I'm sure Paul's material could be used to support this action and I for one would be willing to pitch in to support this initiative, part of which must be to compensate Paul for all his work, assuming he is willing to provide his material.

In my opinion, the key here is to challenge BoI on the criteria that they used to trigger the rate increase. I do not think we can easily challenge the contractual or legal basis. However, we can challenge the financial basis that they used to justify the increase. This seems to have been blindly accepted by the FOS. BoI have a company structure that effectively channels money and any surpluses back to the parent company in Ireland. It is therefore easy to demonstrate that the UK company needs to increase reserves, raise profits etc. etc. thus supporting the triggering the provisions that allow them to raise the rate. This is just like many overseas corporations that on the face of it don't make any profit in the UK. The UK arm incurs all the costs, licensing and other fees, which results in money being sent back to the parent companies, effectively emptying the coffers. The other issue which does not appear to have been raised as far as I can tell is that I believe that many of the mortgages were mis sold. You cannot advertise a tracker with a rate for the lifetime of the mortgage, without any footnotes to say otherwise, that can then be changed. FOS ignored my representations on this matter.

We are almost out of options and now need to mobilise together to have one final push to see if we can get something done about this debacle.

Who is in?

Black Panther

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22:06 PM, 17th May 2015, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Paul Brindley" at "17/05/2015 - 21:26":

We are all free to interpret things in which ever way we choose.

You made your choice and that's your prerogative.

As none of those words (quotes) were actually mine, technically, I said nothing 🙂

On a more serious (and productive?) note, I agree with the last posting and think we should mobilise together to move forward. I don't want to see my single mother tenant 'kicked out' because she can't afford the rent hike (if it comes to that).

Tricia Collick

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9:07 AM, 18th May 2015, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "Stuart Dixon" at "17/05/2015 - 19:56":

Only a few weeks before we get Mark and Carlas (final ?) advice, I'll sit tight till then.
That is a mere dro in the ocean after all this time....

Tricia Collick

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9:09 AM, 18th May 2015, About 10 years ago

Reply to the comment left by "LS " at "17/05/2015 - 19:05":

ps, LS thanks for your thoughts, I just don't like being bullied !

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13:49 PM, 2nd June 2015, About 10 years ago

Hi all is there any further news ref boi rate increase case,? Or is it busted flash? I have sent my 1000, shame others didn't! They must be happy paying the increase.incredibly dishearten from gloucester

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