As a Landlord in the General Election I intend to vote for:

Reply to the comment left by Rob Thomas at 05/11/2019 - 11:23
Hi Rob
Always up for a discussion, but i also believe you will never change another persons point of view by discussion. Something significant in their world has to change in order for their perspective to shift.
My thinking with Boris and Brexit is as follows.
Over 3 years ago we voted by a margin of 52% to 48% to leave, interestingly the 52% leave equates to 37.4% of the people who were eligible to vote.
There is a justified argument that if you didn't vote then you have no right to complain and i accept that. In those 3 years the voting demographic has changed, people have died and more have come of age. Everyone is banging on about the "will of the people" and how we have to get Brexit done and the statistical fact is a third of the population 3 years ago voted to leave. You can no longer say with conviction that the majority of the current population wish the same thing. How long is it before a population is allowed to change it's mind?
In fact David Davis said " When a democracy cannot change it's mind it is no longer a democracy" Boris Johnson said the "chance of no deal is a million to one".
Now we find ourselves as a population having voted to leave with a the options being no deal or a deal that has been previously described as a poor deal. Neither of these things were what we thought we were voting for.
So 48% voted to remain and can't have it, 52% voted to leave on the promise of reclaiming borders and laws and becoming a world leader with excellent trade deals which we can't have.
Meanwhile Boris, who in my opinion has always had his eyes on number 10, charges forward intent on Brexit at any cost. In fact it seemed for the first 3 weeks of his office a no deal was his preferred option as it was the easiest way of achieving it . Spouting nationalism a return to traditional values and putting the great back into Great Britain by telling the EU and the rest of the world how to behave. He finds himself in a minority Government yet removes the whip from those who dare to question and disagree with him in a democratic process. Boris is very dictatorial in his management style with a "it's my way or the highway" approach and has shown repeatedly he is prepared to defy the elected house of commons.
So yes I do think he is right wing in his politics.
The far right option is obviously the Brexit party and not many dots join them to UKIP and then the BNP
Boris was voted in to his role by conservative party members, the number who voted equates to 0.13% of the population.
My opinion only and i'm not looking to fall out or argue with anyone. All our situations are different and we have arrived at a similar place by different routes.
The best thing in the election is to vote plain and simple and accept the result.
I will, and as a footnote to that had we left when we voted to leave my opinion would be very different.

Reply to the comment left by Gromit at 05/11/2019 - 19:17
You're right, I'm 70 next birthday so was around and had just reached a good position in my career (1974) which suddenly disappeared along with many others when the company I worked got taken over, asset stripped and shut down, common in those years. I remember the visit to the job centre to sign on in a very long queue, in less than 5 minutes I thought no way and my life changed for the better from that point. We are heading for a similar amount of grief in a different way if anyone other than the Tories get in with a majority worth having. Lots of people remember it well but attitudes were different then and we coped and got through. The next generation to us, our kids, have a different motivation fueled by modern media, hype etc. more materialistic. I was motivated not by money but to be the best at what I did and the money that came along was a bonus and got used sensibly to provide for my family and future. I will not have that destroyed by a bunch of hypocritical two faced lefties and believe me there are a lot of people out there who feel the same and to be honest I find it a bit scary.

Reply to the comment left by Anon at 04/11/2019 - 14:45
pretty much exactly your words to me last night I believe Mark Alexander so why 'anon' on here?

Reply to the comment left by Denise G at 05/11/2019 - 20:51
I repeated his words on your FB thread because they resonated with me.

I post in my own name here and don’t mince my words.

Reply to the comment left by Martin at 05/11/2019 - 19:22
Hi Martin

As I mentioned, I voted remain in the referendum and personally regret that the UK is leaving the EU, but we cannot re-run the referendum every three years simply because a lot of people didn't like the result and some people have changed their minds or died. Referendums are held on major constitutional issues to ask the electorate on a once-in-a-generation basis. It is clearly impractical to keep rerunning them.

The bar for leaving the EU could have been set higher (e.g. a majority of the entire electorate including non-voters) but it wasn't. Also, Cameron could have set out the policy that any final withdrawal agreement would be put back to the people in a confirmatory referendum, but he didn't. People shouldn't try to change the rules of the vote retrospectively because it undermines democratic legitimacy.

I accept it's unlikely I'll change your views but at some point the issue must be settled - we need to accept the result and get on with leaving or we'll be stuck in this purgatory indefinitely. Right now only the Conservatives offer a clear way to break the deadlock and move us forward.

If we do end up with an another referendum, no matter how pleased I might be personally if we stay in the EU, I know millions of leave voters will feel completely betrayed and political discourse will be poisoned for a generation to come. That's a price nobody should be willing to pay.

Reply to the comment left by Rob Thomas at 05/11/2019 - 21:36
You obviously don’t understand the fundamentals of Boris’s Withdrawal Agreement. It’s actually worse than being in the EU. Ignore the spin the BBC and Sky News are putting out. Go on to the Brexit Party website and read their summary of it.

Reply to the comment left by Dylan Morris at 06/11/2019 - 07:10
I am afraid every deal negotiated, even the best one, will always be worse than what we have now. Not to mention the fact that BoJo will have ONE YEAR to negotiate a FTA. Everyone, including him, knows that it is an impossible task, even for ONE deal. Let alone 700+ we have now, being an EU member. But of course this is the will of British People, so we must follow up regardless.
On the other hand I personally prefer Brexs**t than Commie Corbynov.

Reply to the comment left by Whiteskifreak Surrey at 06/11/2019 - 08:17
well it seems you can't remove thumbs up however hard you try!

The 4 main parties will each get around 25% of the vote. Total hung parliament. Nothing will get done.

Reply to the comment left by Dennis Leverett at 05/11/2019 - 16:18
I agree with your sentiment but the 3-day week was introduced by Ted Heath's government https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Day_Week