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House of Commons Library document update on Making Tax Digital (MTD) was published Christmas Eve: click here
It reported that despite concerns government preparations for introducing MTD for VAT in April 2019 “are progressing well.”
“In December 2015 HM Revenue & Customs published Making Tax Digital – its strategy to implement a new system of digital tax accounts to be used by businesses, the self-employed and landlords. Following a consultation exercise last year, in July 2017 the Government confirmed its plans to roll-out digital tax returns, but with an amended timetable in light of concerns about the potential impact on businesses. This paper discusses the background to this reform. Click here for report
In December 2015 HM Revenue & Customs published Making Tax Digital – its strategy to implement a new system of digital tax accounts to be used by businesses, the self-employed and landlords. The Government proposed that the new system would be rolled out over two years, first applying to income tax returns (in 2018), and then extended to VAT (in 2019) and corporation tax (in 2020). Initially the Government anticipated that in the first phase from April 2018 businesses, self-employed people and landlords would be required to use digital accounts, updating HMRC on a quarterly basis; employees and pensioners would be exempt, unless they had secondary incomes of more than £10,000 per year from self-employment or property.
Following consultation, in the 2017 Budget the Government set out plans to roll-out digital tax returns from April 2018. Unincorporated businesses and landlords would have to file income tax returns this way, if their annual turnover exceeded the VAT registration threshold – the point at which traders are requirement to account for VAT – although those with a turnover below this threshold would have another year to prepare. Businesses, self-employed people and landlords with turnovers under £10,000 would be exempt from these requirements. The Government anticipated that this new system for tax returns would substantially reduce the scale of taxpayer errors in record keeping, raising significant extra Exchequer receipts, although some commentators expressed scepticism as to this claim, and have argued that the compliance burden on smaller businesses will be considerable. Many stakeholders also raised concerns about the potential impact of digital tax returns for taxpayers who might be digitally excluded or have limited experience of using computers for their financial record keeping.
The first tranche of legislation to establish Making Tax Digital was included in the Finance Bill published after the 2017 Budget, on 14 March. However, following the Prime Minister’s announcement, on 18 April, of the Government’s intention to call a General Election on 8 June, the House completed all of the remaining stages of the Bill in the Commons on Tuesday 25 April 2017. With cross-party support the Government removed a series of clauses from the Bill, with the intention of legislating for these at the start of the new Parliament, including these clauses. On this occasion Treasury Minister Jane Ellison said the following:
However, on 13 July 2017 Treasury Minister Mel Stride announced that the timetable for implementing MTD would be substantially amended:
At this time the Government confirmed that provisions for the MTD programme would be included in a Finance Bill to be introduced “as soon as possible after the summer recess.” In turn this second Finance Bill was published on 6 September 2017, and these provisions now form ss60-62 of the Finance (No.2) Act 2017.
In the Autumn 2017 Budget HMRC published an updated impact assessment, which put the cost of the new timetable at around £1.4 billion over 2019-2023, while MTD is anticipated to raise about £1 billion for the Exchequer by 2022/23. About 1.2m businesses, both unincorporated and incorporated, will be required to comply with MTD for VAT. At this time the revised timetable was welcomed by stakeholder groups, such as the Chartered Institute of Taxation and the Low Incomes Tax Reform Group, although Members have continued to raise concerns as to the potential impact on taxpayers, especially smaller businesses.
In July 2018 HMRC published a stakeholder communications pack on MTD, which is the best, first source for taxpayers with guidance on the roll out of this new system of tax returns; this was updated in October. In November 2018 the House of Lords Economic Affairs Committee published a report on MTD for VAT, in which it argued that many businesses were not prepared for its roll-out, and recommended that the Government should defer the introduction of mandatory MTD for VAT “by at least one year, while encouraging businesses to join voluntarily.” The Government has not published a full response to the Committee’s report to date, but has stated that, despite these concerns, the preparations for introducing MTD for VAT in April 2019 “are progressing well.
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Seething Landlord
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Sign Up13:31 PM, 28th December 2018, About 6 years ago
As far as I can see compulsory registration for MTD is still only intended to apply to businesses, including landlords, with an annual turnover in excess of the VAT threshold of £85,000, regardless of any other factors. Is this correct or have I missed something?
I find the statements such as "pensioners would be exempt, unless they had secondary incomes of more than £10,000 per year from self-employment or property" and "Businesses, self-employed people and landlords with turnovers under £10,000 would be exempt from these requirements" confusing unless they only refer to what was contemplated at different stages of the planning and have now been superseded.
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Sign Up14:18 PM, 28th December 2018, About 6 years ago
In summary, this means what for LLs?
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Sign Up10:43 AM, 29th December 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Seething Landlord at 28/12/2018 - 13:31
Those points seem incoherent to me also.
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Sign Up16:22 PM, 29th December 2018, About 6 years ago
I'd still like an answer to At the moment, it's hard enough to get an interest only statement off a Mortgage lender once a year.
The amount of Lenders I've took to the FOS, when they start wanting to charge for interest only statement is shocking.
So one can imagine the difficulty in Landlords getting interest only figures off lenders every 3 months, as they hard enough once a year, some taking 2 months to send the figures.
Until Lenders start automatically sending us them every 3 months, I don't think the Govt (as with everything else the thick imbeciles), have thought this through. Real people on the ground, how's it gonna' work...…
Please someone correct me on the lender interest only request. I've been asking for them 20 years & it ain't an easy simple task with new workers coming into these Lenders that don't even know what an interest only statement is.
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Sign Up17:48 PM, 29th December 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 29/12/2018 - 16:22
I'd just tell them what I actually paid if interest only and then do an adjustment when the final year end return is done. Not so easy if you've a repayment mortgage.
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Sign Up17:53 PM, 29th December 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 29/12/2018 - 16:22
I can see that this would be a problem with repayment mortgages but for interest-only mortgages the landlord's own bank statements or records should produce the information if the mortgage lender does not do so. I think I am right in saying that any inaccuracies in the quarterly figures can be corrected at the end of the year.
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Sign Up19:17 PM, 29th December 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 29/12/2018 - 16:22
A further complication is that you have to use approved software or an approved interface that can extract the information from your spreadsheet and transmit it to HMRC without manual intervention so presumably every monthly entry would have to differentiate between interest and capital repayment.
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Sign Up6:36 AM, 30th December 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Gromit at 29/12/2018 - 17:48
And virtually impossible if you've got lots of houses.
And some of us pay loads more on top of the required payment, so wun't have a clue what the actual interest amount is till the end of the year.
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Sign Up6:37 AM, 30th December 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Seething Landlord at 29/12/2018 - 17:53
Mine would be very inaccurate, as per my message above.
And I'm quite ahead in doing stuff on computer compared to me Landlord mates, so they would really struggle or pay loads more to the accountant, who would charge more, who then some Landlords would need them extra outgoings back by more rental income to pay for it.
Or again, some Landlords would think I've had enough, more stuff to do, I'm selling.
Again no brainer stuff by Govt.
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Sign Up9:24 AM, 30th December 2018, About 6 years ago
Reply to the comment left by Mick Roberts at 30/12/2018 - 06:37
The reality is that sooner or later you will have to set up a system that complies with the mtd requirements if your annual turnover is above the VAT threshold. At the moment all they have said is that mandatory digital reporting will apply to VAT from April 2019 and to income tax no earlier than 2020.